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« Reply #105 on: September 09, 2009, 04:40:01 AM »
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  • Sorry for the sloppiness above.

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    It is also of note that his partner Mr Hiembichner defames Card Rampolla( just like almost everyone else here on Cathinfo). For those who still don't get it, St Pius X appointed Card Rampolla as Chmn of Pontifical Commission of Biblical Studies.


    For those like you who just "don't get" a lot, Mr Heimbichner and Mr Hoffman are not "partners", although one may purchase the former's book on the latter's website.

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    I am just as suspicious of Hoffman as I am of M Martin.


    Then I suggest you get your "suspicion-o-meter" re-calibrated.
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    « Reply #106 on: September 09, 2009, 04:46:50 AM »
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    Then I suggest you get your "suspicion-o-meter" re-calibrated.


    Mine has been set to high alert ever since M-B.


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    « Reply #107 on: September 09, 2009, 05:36:11 AM »
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    Mine has been set to high alert ever since M-B.


    Only so recently? :wink:

    After 55 posts in two days, M-B has gone silent.  Incidentally, one of my points to him was that it would be foolish for me, a long-time regular here, to listen to him, a complete newbie, about how I write, etc., when he could very well be gone tomorrow.  Well...

    I honestly hope he comes back, as I encouraged him to do more than once.  Time will tell.
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    « Reply #108 on: September 09, 2009, 05:53:09 AM »
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  • If he does, maybe he can publish his agenda and positions so that there can be fruitful dispassionate discussion about them.

    That would show some integrity and honesty, and a sincere belief that the positions are correct.  Not to mention it would be at least an indication of willingness to be corrected if they are wrong, for why would a person fail to fully reveal their positions in an organized docuмented way unless they were lacking in confidence as to the veracity of the same.

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    John[/u] 3:20]For every one that doth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, that his works may not be reproved.

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    « Reply #109 on: September 09, 2009, 07:00:09 AM »
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    Not to mention it would be at least an indication of willingness to be corrected if they are wrong, for why would a person fail to fully reveal their positions in an organized docuмented way unless they were lacking in confidence as to the veracity of the same.


    Few have the time to do what you have done, CM.  Even if they did, most of those would not be naturally inclined to spell it all out when others have done so in other places.  I am actually grateful everyone does not see a need to put out some mega-treatise about why he thinks what he thinks in this era of devastation.  If everyone did so, you can be sure I wouldn't be reading all that stuff.  I have a life, mate.  It isn't much, to be sure, but it is what I have and it is short.  Godspeed.
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    « Reply #110 on: September 09, 2009, 07:16:42 AM »
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    Sorry for the sloppiness above.

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    I cannot speak for what he did or did not think.
    Are you suggesting that sedetrad might have some form of Tourette syndrome?


    Where do you get this stuff, "SJB"?  I suggested NOTHING, good, bad, or ugly.  Learn to READ a little more closely and remember your own favorite maxim: Contra factum non valet illatio.  You probably should have kept this in mind when you declared that "there must be something to it" about the "conspiracy" between sedetrad and me.

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    Yes, but that's irrelevant isn't it?


    It is relevant insofar as, of late, you are manifesting a tendency to see a conspiracy where none exists ("Hello, Kettle, this is Pot.  You're black!").  Remember: Contra factum non valet illatio.


    I don't really see a conspriacy. Didn't you read what I wrote.
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    « Reply #111 on: September 09, 2009, 07:41:55 AM »
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    Now I don't really think that, but the mindset around here makes me want to suggest it...I mean why would you answer for him? There must be something behind it.


    Of course I read it, "SJB"!  Did you?

    Now, you might understandably focus more on the words above that are NOT in bold, but the bold is pretty clear: "There must be something behind it."

    As you and others caught with their pants down often say (in place of the simple admission that your pants are, in fact, down), "it is irrelevant."  Carry on, my good man...
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    « Reply #112 on: September 09, 2009, 08:05:29 AM »
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    Now I don't really think that, but the mindset around here makes me want to suggest it...I mean why would you answer for him? There must be something behind it.


    Of course I read it, "SJB"!  Did you?

    Now, you might understandably focus more on the words above that are NOT in bold, but the bold is pretty clear: "There must be something behind it."

    As you and others caught with their pants down often say (in place of the simple admission that your pants are, in fact, down), "it is irrelevant."  Carry on, my good man...


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    Now I don't really think that, but the mindset around here makes me want to suggest it...I mean why would you answer for him? There must be something behind it.


    Contra factum non valet illatio.  :cheers:


    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil


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    « Reply #113 on: September 09, 2009, 08:30:11 AM »
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  • So if the Wiki piece on Coomaraswamy is accurate, it is quite understandable that Rama is suspected of a negative influence at the Ridgefield seminary.

    I also just read an interview with him that did not inspire confidence in his love of Christ.  Aside from the Perennialism SP?)  I was struck by his cavalier attitude about Abp. Lefebvre's demands for obedience.  I could only conclude that his Brahman upbringing was never weeded out.  His attitude in the interview seems purely clinical and intellectual.

    As a psychiatrist, I can most certainly see his value in determing mental illness as opposed to demonic possession, but it is odd that his family rejected his interest in Traditional Catholicism.  

    I admit that I have no patience to learn more about Perrenialism.  I reject it as a companion to Catholicism on grounds of common sense.  Although he did say priests doing Yoga is silly, he didn't say why.  

    I doubt we'll ever get to the bottom of the mystery of Rama Coomaraswamy.

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    « Reply #114 on: September 09, 2009, 11:29:06 AM »
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  • Hoffman is suspicious, gladius_veritatis.

    Maybe he's even Malachi Martin for intellectuals.

    He holds the Constitution above the Catholic Church, and the amount of time he spends defending the former is infinitely greater than the amount of time he spends defending the latter.  An obvious red flag.  Here is a quote from an interview.

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    It's not hard to see that W. Mark Felt, the "Deep Throat" informer who passed away yesterday and who helped blow the cover off Watergate, was motivated not by noble Constitutional motives (in 1980 Felt was convicted of violating the Constitutional rights of Americans), but by rage at President Richard Nixon for failing to nominate him to head the FBI.


    Our "Constitutional rights" are a Freemasonic farce, and this man is too smart not to see it.  No Pope has ever advocated free speech.

    Hoffman knows the Founding Fathers were Freemasons.  Yet he clearly hates monarchy.  What's with the schizo attitude?  It seems his position is an immature revolt against all authority.

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    Public school students have little if any understanding of their hereditary, Common Law and Constitutional rights. They are increasingly herded like assembly-line automatons. The elite among them intuitively revolt. Once our people as a whole would have rebelled. It was a common pastime of the English people to hurl rocks at the royal carriage during the reign of George I (1714-1727). Bill Clinton would have been routinely stoned and spat upon by our ancestors.


    More Revolutionary rhetoric that sounds just like Alex Jones, despite their supposed enmity.  

    Hoffman is a new breed -- he engages in an elite form of populist demagoguery.  He is like Robespierre for well-read conspiracy theorists.  He constantly pushes some notion of the "people" against the "leaders" without any sort of qualification of who the leaders might be.  Are you telling me you don't smell the blood dripping off the guillotine when you read the above paragraph?

    He is a promoter of endless revolution, and I'd say seemingly an instigator of the staged "cινιℓ ωαr" that seems to be gearing up in this country.  He has a rabble-rousing attitude that equates "freedom" and "truth" with rebelling against authority.  The implication of his writings, over and over again, is that we should stand up for the CONSTITUTION -- not for the CHURCH.

    Most Americans don't understand why this is bad.  That is because they are totally brainwashed, and it is people like Hofmann who have brainwashed them, by insinuating constantly these "values" of liberty and free speech and supposed freedom.  The Constitution is not a noble docuмent, it is a form of the "Declaration of the Rights of Man" which was condemned by the Church.

    This is endemic with Americans.  They are addicted to "freedom" the way some are addicted to alcohol.  But they don't know what it is, they just know they never have enough.  Same Mel Gibsonian/revolutionary/Freemasonic propaganda.

    How about a Catholic monarchy with strict, inescapable rules, and the abolishing of vice?  How about faith, order and morality?  Is Hoffman for the separation of Church and state? Is he against the Social Reign of Christ the King?  All indications would appear to say so.  That may be why he's so evasive about being Catholic.

    I've never known a Catholic to not mention Mary or make certain comments about being a sinner or discuss the saints or quote doctors of the Church or mention how they missed saying the Rosary on Tuesday -- he rarely does these things.  Yet he'll bleat about the Constitution all day and night.  It's also worth mentioning that at one point he worked for Reuters which is pure disinfo.  If he had integrity I wonder how he could have ever had that job.  

    P.S. It is interesting that in one of the prophecies that talk about the days leading to the Great Monarch, it says "the good will have little to do" because the "republicans" will be killing each other in cινιℓ ωαrs.  Notice the implication here.  The good are not those who are tricked by ideals of the republic.  These people burn each other out.  The good are those whose ideal is restoring the CATHOLIC CHURCH to the place of honor it must have, as the guide of both the temporal and supernatural spheres.

    Let those who have ears to hear, hear.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #115 on: September 09, 2009, 03:53:34 PM »
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    There were thousands of people present in St Peter's sq that day and the whole scenario received at least wide local coverage.


    These people are conspirators.  You don't think they could have whipped up some white smoke to lead people astray?  

    I never said that Malachi Martin was the only source for the Siri theory, go back and check and give me the quote where I said that.

    I don't care if Siri was elected because no one has mentioned any scenario that is even remotely plausible about how he would have appointed a successor while under close guard -- so again we're back to sede vacante.

    You, Mr. roscoe, seem to have an addiction to anything sensational or novel.  


    Your words are on the bottom of a post U made during this discussion on pg 4=== " ...if you take away Martin, whoosh, there goes the Siri theory". This is basically saying that Martin is the only source for the Siri election. This is far from the truth and one wonders why U have to resort to this type of sophistry.

    Common sense should tell U that over a 30 yr period, Pope Greg XVII would have had ample opportunity one way or another to appoint a Curia.

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    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    « Reply #116 on: September 09, 2009, 04:25:36 PM »
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  • I guess you are right, I did say that.  Touche, my eccentric friend, it looks like "U" have scored one on me.

    I must have been thinking about why David Hobson would use Malachi Martin, who he calls "controversial," to bolster his theory.  

    If Malachi Martin really did know that Siri was elected in 1963 then he also knows that Paul VI was never even a Pope.  He didn't even have to lose the throne through heresy because he had no valid election.  The Holy Spirit must choose a Pope, and the Holy Spirit cannot be coerced or strong-armed.

    Why did Malachi then act as if Paul VI were Pope?  Just more misterioso from the Man of Mystery himself.

    Hobson then claims on his website that Malachi accepted the V-2 Popes were "anti-Popes" before his death.  All I know is his requiem Mass was said by Malachi's confessor, Fr. Wickens, a priest who could be described as a "Novus Ordo conservative" -- he offered the Latin Mass I believe but was no sedevacantist.  

    So far I've seen no proof that Malachi ever became sedevacantist.  I used to believe it because I believed the story that he "ordained" Rama Coomaraswamy but now that has been thrown into doubt.

    I recant what I said about the Siri thesis dying along with Malachi.  His espousal of the Siri theory means nothing, even less than nothing, because nothing he said could be trusted.  It neither helps nor hinders the theory, which as I said, until we have further information, died out not with Martin but with SIRI, because there is no way he could have elected a successor.  Some kind of "Pope Michael" may be trotted out claiming to be the successor, however.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #117 on: September 09, 2009, 04:30:35 PM »
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  • Roscoe said
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    Common sense should tell U that over a 30 yr period, Pope Greg XVII would have had ample opportunity one way or another to appoint a Curia.


    I'm not sure common sense is your specialty roskie, but what mine tells me is that the notion that he could appoint his own cardinals while being closely watched by murderous Novus Ordo hirelings is altogether unlikely if not impossible.  

    Just like a Malachi Martin fan -- which I know you are not -- you are trying to have it both ways.  You want to say Siri was coerced and didn't WANT to go along with Vatican II, that his life was threatened, and so on.  And then you want to give him the miraculous freedom to elect a College of Cardinals.

    If they weren't going to let him be Pope, they weren't going to let him go around making cardinals.  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #118 on: September 09, 2009, 04:44:30 PM »
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  • My post was not to 'score one on U', it was just a valid point. And since I am not familiar w/ the Martin/Siri connection-- did M Martin say that Card Siri was elected in 1958 or 63 or both?

    Greg XVII may not have been the best Pope, but I think that over 30 yrs, he would have a chance to make cardinals.
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    « Reply #119 on: September 09, 2009, 05:49:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: roscoe
    My post was not to 'score one on U', it was just a valid point. And since I am not familiar w/ the Martin/Siri connection-- did M Martin say that Card Siri was elected in 1958 or 63 or both?

    Greg XVII may not have been the best Pope, but I think that over 30 yrs, he would have a chance to make cardinals.
    Yes MM said that Siri had been elected Pope in Keys of This Blood and in various interviews before that book was published.