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Double Agent?

  What do a Buddhist, a Mohammedan, a Jєω, and a Vatican II "priest" all have in common? No, this isn't the beginning of an off-color joke. The answer is to be found in the latest video put out by Mr. Bergoglio (aka "Pope" Francis); they are all "Children of God," and they all "believe in love." Moreover, this is the "only one certainty we have for all." Apostasy of this magnitude (unthinkable even ten years ago) needs no comment from me. Anyone with even the slightest bit of knowledge regarding the True Faith will instantly see that this video is produced from Hell. A very good analysis is provided on "Novusordowatch.org."

     The purpose of my post is to put forth a question of my own: "How can anyone not be a sedevacantist after all this ecuмenical apostasy?" Robert Siscoe and John Salza (Salza being a lawyer like myself) are putting out a book entitled True or False Pope, Refuting Sedevacantism and Other Modern Errors. The foreword is written by Bp. Bernard Fellay, General Superior of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX). The book rehashes all the same worn out, discredited arguments of the "recognize and resist" camp of pseudo-Traditionalists who hold that, despite all the evidence to the contrary, Frankie is "pope," and we have the right to choose not to obey him when we dislike what he says ( a totally false, non-Catholic, invented principle).

  Those of us who remember any part of the Cold War (circa 1945-1989), will recall that there were those who were outright Communists, "fellow travelers" (i.e., those who are not "card-carrying" Communists yet share most/all of their ideas and goals), and "useful idiots" (i.e., those  people who act as propagandists for  Communism-- of whose goals they are not fully aware--- and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause). Perhaps it's time we categorize those who "recognize and resist" Begoglio in the same way.

  Mr. Salza, co-author of True or False Pope claims to be a former 32nd degree Freemason who left to join the Vatican II sect. He has written several books including Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons. In his book on Masonry, Mr. Salza correctly expounds the teachings and aims of the Lodge. I will show some pertinent points regarding both Masonry and Begoglio.


 Masonry Promotes Indifferentism




 Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ forbids prayers in the name of Jesus Christ but instead calls upon the Deistic "Great Architect of the Universe" (GAOTU). Freemason Manly Hall explains, "Christ, Buddha, or Mohammed, the name means little." (See The Lost Keys of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ; or, The Secret of Hiram Abiff, Richmond, Virginia, Macoy, 1976, pg.65). Watch Frankie's video again with the Buddhist, Mohammedan, Jєω, and "priest." Now read what a real pope wrote:




 Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession of any kind of religion, as long as morality is maintained. Surely, in so clear a matter, you will drive this deadly error far from the people committed to your care. With the admonition of the apostle that "there is one God, one faith, one baptism"may those fear who contrive the notion that the safe harbor of salvation is open to persons of any religion whatever. They should consider the testimony of Christ Himself that "those who are not with Christ are against Him,"and that they disperse unhappily who do not gather with Him. Therefore "without a doubt, they will perish forever, unless they hold the Catholic faith whole and inviolate." Let them hear Jerome who, while the Church was torn into three parts by schism, tells us that whenever someone tried to persuade him to join his group he always exclaimed: "He who is for the See of Peter is for me." A schismatic flatters himself falsely if he asserts that he, too, has been washed in the waters of regeneration. Indeed Augustine would reply to such a man: "The branch has the same form when it has been cut off from the vine; but of what profit for it is the form, if it does not live from the root?" (See Pope Gregory XVI Mirari Vos, #13)




Masonry Demands Strict Obedience Of Its High Ranking Members Under Penalty of Death




 "Moreover, to be enrolled, it is necessary that the candidates promise and undertake to be thenceforward strictly obedient to their leaders and masters with the utmost submission and fidelity, and to be in readiness to do their bidding upon the slightest expression of their will; or, if disobedient, to submit to the direst penalties and death itself. As a fact, if any are judged to have betrayed the doings of the sect or to have resisted commands given, punishment is inflicted on them not infrequently, and with so much audacity and dexterity that the assassin very often escapes the detection and penalty of his crime." (Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus # 9)




Masonry LOVES Mr. Bergoglio




"A man of the poor far away from the Curia. Fraternity and the desire to dialogue were his first concrete words. Perhaps nothing in the Church will be as it was before. Our hope is that the pontificate of Francis, the Pope who 'comes from the end of the world' can mark the return to the Church-Word instead of the Church-Institution, promoting an open dialogue with the contemporary world, with believers and non-believers, following the springtime of Vatican II." --- Gustavo Raffi, Grand Master of the Grand Orient Masonic Lodge of Italy, upon the "election" of Frankie in March 2013--Emphasis mine



"In the Argentine Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, based on the principles of tolerance, profound respect for personal convictions, liberty, equality and fraternity, the brothers who profess or adhere to this religious faith stand together with others who belong to other creeds, are agnostics or lack any faith. In the name of all, the Grand Lodge of Argentina greets our co-patriot Cardinal who just received such a high world distinction." (signed) Angel Jorge Clavero, Grand Master




Summary and (Draw Your Own) Conclusion

1. Masonry, which shares the same ideology as Modernism, wants a one-world ecuмenical religion devoid of dogma.




2. Jorge Begoglio has produced a video that captures that central goal of Masonry and promotes it.




3. The Masons openly praise Bergoglio.




4. The True Church has officially condemned Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ (specifically) no less than seventeen (17) times




5. High ranking Masons will be the target of wrath should they disobey (or leave) Masonry, including being killed by the Lodge.




6.  We can say that there are actual Masons, "fellow travelers" who believe in Indifferentism (e.g., Modernists), and useful idiots who are led into staying with Bergoglio through propaganda books like True or False Pope




7. John Salza knows the teachings of the True Church rather well. He may be useful, but he's no idiot.




8. Salza claims he was a 32nd degree Mason (one of the very highest, ruling-class levels) and claims to have left. Yet, he prospers as a lawyer and nothing has been done to him. He has even written a book entitled Masonry Unmasked; An Insider Reveals The Secrets of the Lodge,He seems unafraid of any consequences (unlike some former Masons who wrote books under pseudonyms to protect themselves).




9. Salza's book aids Frankie (whom the Masons love) and keeps souls in union with the "Vicar of Satan."




10. Is it possible Salza is still a Mason, with his mission to try to keep people fearing sedevacantism, and thereby help the cause of the Masonic Lodge and their master; Satan?




As people who read my blog will know very well, I'm no "conspiracy nut." I don't know if Mr. Salza is an actual Mason or not. One thing I do know, is that whether he's wearing an actual Masonic apron or not, his book does the work of those condemned by Pope Pius VIII (echoing the words of Pope St. Leo the Great) because their "Law is prevarication; religion, the devil; sacrifice, disgrace."
Double Agent?






  What do a Buddhist, a Mohammedan, a Jєω, and a Vatican II "priest" all have in common? No, this isn't the beginning of an off-color joke. The answer is to be found in the latest video put out by Mr. Bergoglio (aka "Pope" Francis); they are all "Children of God," and they all "believe in love." Moreover, this is the "only one certainty we have for all." Apostasy of this magnitude (unthinkable even ten years ago) needs no comment from me. Anyone with even the slightest bit of knowledge regarding the True Faith will instantly see that this video is produced from Hell. A very good analysis is provided on "Novusordowatch.org."

     The purpose of my post is to put forth a question of my own: "How can anyone not be a sedevacantist after all this ecuмenical apostasy?" Robert Siscoe and John Salza (Salza being a lawyer like myself) are putting out a book entitled True or False Pope, Refuting Sedevacantism and Other Modern Errors. The foreword is written by Bp. Bernard Fellay, General Superior of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX). The book rehashes all the same worn out, discredited arguments of the "recognize and resist" camp of pseudo-Traditionalists who hold that, despite all the evidence to the contrary, Frankie is "pope," and we have the right to choose not to obey him when we dislike what he says ( a totally false, non-Catholic, invented principle).

  Those of us who remember any part of the Cold War (circa 1945-1989), will recall that there were those who were outright Communists, "fellow travelers" (i.e., those who are not "card-carrying" Communists yet share most/all of their ideas and goals), and "useful idiots" (i.e., those  people who act as propagandists for  Communism-- of whose goals they are not fully aware--- and who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause). Perhaps it's time we categorize those who "recognize and resist" Begoglio in the same way.

  Mr. Salza, co-author of True or False Pope claims to be a former 32nd degree Freemason who left to join the Vatican II sect. He has written several books including Why Catholics Cannot Be Masons. In his book on Masonry, Mr. Salza correctly expounds the teachings and aims of the Lodge. I will show some pertinent points regarding both Masonry and Begoglio.


 Masonry Promotes Indifferentism




 Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ forbids prayers in the name of Jesus Christ but instead calls upon the Deistic "Great Architect of the Universe" (GAOTU). Freemason Manly Hall explains, "Christ, Buddha, or Mohammed, the name means little." (See The Lost Keys of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ; or, The Secret of Hiram Abiff, Richmond, Virginia, Macoy, 1976, pg.65). Watch Frankie's video again with the Buddhist, Mohammedan, Jєω, and "priest." Now read what a real pope wrote:




 Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession of any kind of religion, as long as morality is maintained. Surely, in so clear a matter, you will drive this deadly error far from the people committed to your care. With the admonition of the apostle that "there is one God, one faith, one baptism"may those fear who contrive the notion that the safe harbor of salvation is open to persons of any religion whatever. They should consider the testimony of Christ Himself that "those who are not with Christ are against Him,"and that they disperse unhappily who do not gather with Him. Therefore "without a doubt, they will perish forever, unless they hold the Catholic faith whole and inviolate." Let them hear Jerome who, while the Church was torn into three parts by schism, tells us that whenever someone tried to persuade him to join his group he always exclaimed: "He who is for the See of Peter is for me." A schismatic flatters himself falsely if he asserts that he, too, has been washed in the waters of regeneration. Indeed Augustine would reply to such a man: "The branch has the same form when it has been cut off from the vine; but of what profit for it is the form, if it does not live from the root?" (See Pope Gregory XVI Mirari Vos, #13)




Masonry Demands Strict Obedience Of Its High Ranking Members Under Penalty of Death




 "Moreover, to be enrolled, it is necessary that the candidates promise and undertake to be thenceforward strictly obedient to their leaders and masters with the utmost submission and fidelity, and to be in readiness to do their bidding upon the slightest expression of their will; or, if disobedient, to submit to the direst penalties and death itself. As a fact, if any are judged to have betrayed the doings of the sect or to have resisted commands given, punishment is inflicted on them not infrequently, and with so much audacity and dexterity that the assassin very often escapes the detection and penalty of his crime." (Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus # 9)




Masonry LOVES Mr. Bergoglio




"A man of the poor far away from the Curia. Fraternity and the desire to dialogue were his first concrete words. Perhaps nothing in the Church will be as it was before. Our hope is that the pontificate of Francis, the Pope who 'comes from the end of the world' can mark the return to the Church-Word instead of the Church-Institution, promoting an open dialogue with the contemporary world, with believers and non-believers, following the springtime of Vatican II." --- Gustavo Raffi, Grand Master of the Grand Orient Masonic Lodge of Italy, upon the "election" of Frankie in March 2013--Emphasis mine



"In the Argentine Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, based on the principles of tolerance, profound respect for personal convictions, liberty, equality and fraternity, the brothers who profess or adhere to this religious faith stand together with others who belong to other creeds, are agnostics or lack any faith. In the name of all, the Grand Lodge of Argentina greets our co-patriot Cardinal who just received such a high world distinction." (signed) Angel Jorge Clavero, Grand Master




Summary and (Draw Your Own) Conclusion

1. Masonry, which shares the same ideology as Modernism, wants a one-world ecuмenical religion devoid of dogma.




2. Jorge Begoglio has produced a video that captures that central goal of Masonry and promotes it.




3. The Masons openly praise Bergoglio.




4. The True Church has officially condemned Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ (specifically) no less than seventeen (17) times




5. High ranking Masons will be the target of wrath should they disobey (or leave) Masonry, including being killed by the Lodge.




6.  We can say that there are actual Masons, "fellow travelers" who believe in Indifferentism (e.g., Modernists), and useful idiots who are led into staying with Bergoglio through propaganda books like True or False Pope




7. John Salza knows the teachings of the True Church rather well. He may be useful, but he's no idiot.




8. Salza claims he was a 32nd degree Mason (one of the very highest, ruling-class levels) and claims to have left. Yet, he prospers as a lawyer and nothing has been done to him. He has even written a book entitled Masonry Unmasked; An Insider Reveals The Secrets of the Lodge,He seems unafraid of any consequences (unlike some former Masons who wrote books under pseudonyms to protect themselves).




9. Salza's book aids Frankie (whom the Masons love) and keeps souls in union with the "Vicar of Satan."




10. Is it possible Salza is still a Mason, with his mission to try to keep people fearing sedevacantism, and thereby help the cause of the Masonic Lodge and their master; Satan?




As people who read my blog will know very well, I'm no "conspiracy nut." I don't know if Mr. Salza is an actual Mason or not. One thing I do know, is that whether he's wearing an actual Masonic apron or not, his book does the work of those condemned by Pope Pius VIII (echoing the words of Pope St. Leo the Great) because their "Law is prevarication; religion, the devil; sacrifice, disgrace."

Well all, more or less, of us recognise that masons did infiltrate the Church even to the high levels 60 years ago (if not long before that).

Some of us also point to the removal of explicit condemnation of Mason membership in the newest Codex Iuris Canonici as proof of actual acceptance in the Newchurch.

So, the fact that lay Masons might pose as Catholics to further the Masonic agenda is quite likely.


It is also true that as years go by, the NewChurch's official stance on false Religions is slowly drifting into open Religious Indifferentism with them recognised openly as "guided by the HS" or "paths to Salvation" or "containing parts of Truth" and so on..

..towards an official and formal recognition of every cult as a "Path to God",
which is essentially the Masonic theory on the GAOTU.

... it is so obvious that Francis is NOT a True Pope that I am willing to shed my blood for that cause, with God's grace, always with God's grace for without it I am a coward.

Is that a Catholic doctrine to which you adhere with such conviction?

The important part of this thread is the theory that Salza could be a double agent.
Something which I never thought of, and very plausible. Thanks for the posting.

Double Agent?

 …. John Salza .. putting out a book entitled True or False Pope, Refuting Sedevacantism and Other Modern Errors. …

  Mr. Salza, co-author of True or False Pope claims to be a former 32nd degree Freemason who left to join the Vatican II sect. …Masonry Demands Strict Obedience Of Its High Ranking Members Under Penalty of Death

"Moreover, to be enrolled, it is necessary that the candidates promise and undertake to be thenceforward strictly obedient to their leaders and masters with the utmost submission and fidelity, and to be in readiness to do their bidding upon the slightest expression of their will; or, if disobedient, to submit to the direst penalties and death itself. As a fact, if any are judged to have betrayed the doings of the sect or to have resisted commands given, punishment is inflicted on them not infrequently, and with so much audacity and dexterity that the assassin very often escapes the detection and penalty of his crime." (Pope Leo XIII, Humanum Genus # 9)

8. Salza claims he was a 32nd degree Mason (one of the very highest, ruling-class levels) and claims to have left. Yet, he prospers as a lawyer and nothing has been done to him. He has even written a book entitled Masonry Unmasked; An Insider Reveals The Secrets of the Lodge,He seems unafraid of any consequences (unlike some former Masons who wrote books under pseudonyms to protect themselves).

9. Salza's book aids Frankie (whom the Masons love) and keeps souls in union with the "Vicar of Satan."

10. Is it possible Salza is still a Mason, with his mission to try to keep people fearing sedevacantism, and thereby help the cause of the Masonic Lodge and their master; Satan?

One thing I do know, is that whether he's wearing an actual Masonic apron or not, his book does the work of those condemned by Pope Pius VIII (echoing the words of Pope St. Leo the Great) because their "Law is prevarication; religion, the devil; sacrifice, disgrace."

Double Agent?

The important part of this thread is the theory that Salza could be a double agent.
Something which I never thought of, and very plausible. Thanks for the posting.

Always very plausible, but I can tell you that these same accusations befell many a trad in the early days of the revolution, far as I know, none of them were ever proven true - not sure how they ever could be proven true any how.

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... it is so obvious that Francis is NOT a True Pope that I am willing to shed my blood for that cause, with God's grace, always with God's grace for without it I am a coward.

Is that a Catholic doctrine to which you adhere with such conviction?

You mean the part about Francis not being a True Pope? Or the part about my needing God's grace?

Yes, to both, since it is Doctrine the Church will last till the end of time, and yes, I do need God's grace.  

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Only God will judge them justly.

And thank God that sedevacantists have not been granted by Our Lord the power to bind and loose, let alone to replace Him as sole Just Judge.

You, like me, Myrna, speak often, at least indirectly, of our Particular Judgments. Do you honestly think that Jesus Christ will ask you or me to be responsible for decisions made in Rome, when He didn't appoint you or me to do that?

He will ask you and me if we have obeyed His commandments to the best of our knowledge, ability, and rightly formed conscience.  By definition, justice demands that people not be accused of or responsible for the sins and failings of other people over whom they have no power.  Thus, if we have children, we may be called to account for whatever failures in formation or aid, practical and spiritual, we are guilty of.  The same is true for any dependents in our fields of work.

We are the dependents of the Holy See, Myrna.  They have failed us.  Do you not get that yet?  We are responsible neither for their failures nor for their redemption.  It is an impossibility that Jesus Christ the Lord will judge you or me or anyone on this forum if such people have not "figured it all out" and come to supposedly definitive, "absolute" conclusions about ecclesiastical appointments and elections.  His justice does and will pertain strictly to each individual's area of responsibility.   Now, to the extent that our personal sins (breaking of the 10 commandments; there is no 11th commandment to "obey" sedevacantism) have contributed or continue to contribute to the apostasy in Rome and throughout the local parishes (why do you think it's only Rome, by the way?), then indirectly there could be some culpability on our part. (Ultimately, all of our personal sins have "corporate" impact as well.)

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Yes, I believe there are "Salza's" right here on this forum to help keep the confused, confused.

No one's "confusing" anyone, of any matter that is material to eternity.  The Commandments are clear; they are not confusing.  God has spoken, His Son has spoken and reiterated what we need to do, individually, for our salvation.   There is no excuse for any sedeplenist, sedeimpedist (sorry if the spelling's wrong), sedeprivationist, or sedevacantist not to obey the Commandments.  It doesn't matter whether the Pope is a heretic or not, whether he is the antipope or not, whether he is even the AntiChrist.  It matters whether you and I are heretics and lead others to heresy, however. The Pope's disastrous "theology" affects not one whit our ability to work out our salvation.

Yes, you're correct about the dangers to the Church as an institution, including to our children who have been baptized and will remain after us, etc.  But we are still only responsible, morally, for our spheres and no farther.  Great advice about praying the rosary and all, yes.  That would be within our area of responsibilty:  Prayers for the Church as a body, yes.  But we are not responsible for "making declarations," including loyalty oaths or intellectually deposing elected popes.  We stand up for Truth with our words and actions which conform to the permanent  Deposit of Faith and not an invented "faith."  If we know what that Faith is, we will be held to account for professing and living it.  We will not be held to account for whether or not we succeeded in convincing the entire Church Militant that Francis is not the Pope.

I read in a Catholic approved source the first question will be asked of us, when we stand before God will be ... "How did you Keep the Faith?"... there is no Faith within the ranks of Vatican II.  Also it is a scandal to the little children, and you know what God said about giving scandal to little children.  

I read in a Catholic approved source the first question will be asked of us, when we stand before God will be ... "How did you Keep the Faith?"...

Darn tootin'.  How did I Keep the Faith?  The true Faith, the only Faith, the Faith as passed down from Holy Mother Church.  Not some apostate "faith,"  not some apostate prelate, but what has been continuous with Sacred Tradition, regardless of which priest or pope might have suggested I should not do that (or that's an optional or maybe even a bad idea).  Should he have "forgotten," or ignored, or opposed that true Faith, that will be on his conscience, not mine, and mine will have nowhere to hide on that Judgment Day, even if the Church following that tradition has been reduced to a sliver of a remnant.  As I have awareness of that Faith, I am obligated at peril of my soul to follow it.

there is no Faith within the ranks of Vatican II.  Also it is a scandal to the little children, and you know what God said about giving scandal to little children.  

Right again.  But Vatican II has not commanded you to sin or me to sin.  Not in the docuмents.  Nowhere has it commanded you or me to sin in our words, thoughts, or actions.  The docuмents of Vatican II are about theology, philosophy, ecclesiology, and idealism.  They did not introduce new commandments, specific and binding to the laity.  They did not command us to attend ecuмenical services or even to attend the N.O. Mass.  They did not command us to believe in false gods.  They did not command us to receive CITH.  They did not command us to let the World, the Flesh, and the Devil inform our consciences and guide our morality.

Any priest or pope who tells us that "Vatican II" allows us to break the commandments is a liar or is ignorant.  If such a man should tell me that, I would demand to sit down with him and show me precisely in the docuмents where an ecuмenical council of the Roman Catholic Church permits or commands sin of her subjects as individuals -- not where the docuмents say  or imply that the Church, as an institution, "may" or "might" do this or that in her official capacity, but where it says that you and I are allowed to commit personal sin (break the 10 commandments).