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Dorothy Day, Newchurch error and common sense:
« on: November 14, 2012, 04:20:45 PM »
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How in the world can someone read about Ratzinger's continued approval of the investigation into Dorothy Day's so-called 'sanctity' [sic] and still think this man has a shred of Catholic faith?

I know that beatifications and canonizations are not infallible (and even if they were, Ratzinger's wouldn't qualify IMO because he is not a pope, a bishop, a priest or a Catholic).

However, in order for someone like Ratzinger to even arrive at the conclusion that someone like Day was even Catholic, let alone heroically so, he would have to ignore, obfuscate, spin and/or accept so many anti-Catholic, anti-Christ principles that it simply staggers the imagination.

Never mind her praise of Stalin and other atheistic Communists. Never mind her dogmatically illegal "common law" marriage to an atheist. Never mind her insistence that Communism and the teachings of Christ and His Church were somehow compatible.

Simply put, the thing that strikes me as unbelievable is that a Freemason, namely Roncalli, was man enough and seemingly Catholic enough to tell Ms. Day to stop using the word "Catholic" in the title of her "movement" and in her writings.

How is it that ANYONE could have LESS Catholic sense than a Freemason who was still intelligent enough to condemn Day's falsehoods as not Catholic?

Just ranting. Ratzinger and his ilk make me sick.

Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

Dorothy Day, Newchurch error and common sense:
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2012, 04:23:50 PM »
What anti-Catholic principles? Distributism? And what praise of atheism or Communism?


Dorothy Day, Newchurch error and common sense:
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 05:19:17 PM »
What anti-Catholic principles?

How about ignoring an excommunication and associating with the excommunicate (namely in-Fidel Castro)? Holy Church tells us that once the Church pronounces someone cut off from Her, we are to treat them as unbelievers. The only communication with them fitting for a Catholic would be to call the excommunicate to repentance and confession and abjuration of their sins.

What praise of atheism? Day lived in that sinful, wicked common-law state with an atheist "husband". Doesn't seem like much of an effort to convert him, does it, especially when she bore his children? There are few ways that someone could be more intimately united with a person, and it is clear that conjugal union with an infidel is not sanctioned at all by the Church. I really don't see how anyone could get around that.

What praise of Communism? Referring to Stalin and others as "secular saints"?

How about the fact that Day never hesitated to refer to herself as an ANARCHIST. Anarchy is laughably anti-Catholic.

I'm not sure why anyone would be defending Dorothy Day's beatification by a known heretic like Wojtyla. Whatever Day was, she was disobedient to her superiors and supportive of political and social movements which had their roots in secularism and anti-Church sentiment.

**NOTE** I retract completely my criticism of Day's common-law marriage; it began and ended before her conversion to the Catholic Faith. I apologize for my oversight of that fact when reading about her.

QVP, also, please understand that I may have rushed to some criticism because whenever Newchurch proposes someone as a model of ANYTHING, I get riled up over how many souls they will continue to deceive.

I am not above correction on any of these matters AND I am VERY certainly ready and willing to learn more that could change my opinion on any of these facts.

It's situations like these that make the falsehoods of Newchurch so much harder for me to bear; I am so bereft of avenues of spiritual growth and direction as I journey towards communion with Holy Church that all of these actions by Her enemies just get me very angry. I covet all your prayers.

Dorothy Day, Newchurch error and common sense:
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2012, 05:53:07 PM »
"Maurin's Program"
By Dorothy Day
The Catholic Worker, June-July 1933, 4.  
Summary: (DOC #266) Outlines Peter Maurin's three step program of social reconstruction (round table discussions, houses of hospitality, farm colonies) led by the laity working out the principles in the Popes' encyclicals on social justice.


MAURIN'S PROGRAM Read on...  
http://www.catholicworker.org/dorothyday/daytext.cfm?TextID=266

Dorothy Day, Newchurch error and common sense:
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 06:04:19 PM »
Stephen Francis,

Your second post didn't appear until after I had posted. I commend your humble retraction of your comments about DD's family life. You may be interested to know that also had an abortion of which she later repented.
I have had an interest in her and she has an attraction for me in her selfless devotion to the poor.

I also understand your angry reaction to the falsehoods of newchurch. I reserve my judgement on DD until I learn more.

I believe that she could well be in Heaven now.