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Offline MarylandTrad

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« on: August 11, 2014, 01:25:28 PM »
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  • "A fraud (specifically, a religious fraud; but since he is the prime fraud, he deserves the title without qualification) is a person who poses as a model Catholic, an exemplar of holiness and learning, but who does not have the Faith. He is a person who tries to make you believe that the Catholic Faith, as it exists here and now in the United States of America, is somehow essentially different from the Faith as it existed elsewhere in ages past, that it is not quite the same as the Faith that the saints of the Middle Ages held and the martyrs of Rome died for, that it has changed and adjusted itself to keep up with the times.

    A fraud is a person who, because of his own fears, ignorance, and ambitions tries to deceive non-Catholic Americans on the subject of their eternal salvation, telling them or letting them think that he has told them, that the Church does not teach, at least not any more, that it is necessary for them to become Catholics to save their souls, but that they need only to follow faithfully the precepts of their own religions. The frauds want to destroy the impression of the Church as the single, clear, unequivocal way to salvation and to substitute for it the impression of a good-natured, democratic, successful organization, a beneficent influence on community morals, a strong bulwark against Communism, something staid, harmless, and acceptable, something that would never be so presumptuous as to set itself above other religions or to claim for itself exclusive custodianship of the gate of Heaven.

    Although all frauds have the same general intention, there are as many different varieties of them as there are different excuses for being ashamed of the Faith in the presence of non-Catholics. For example, there is the pious fraud, the archetype of them all, who boasts of his daily attendance at Mass, but who is equally anxious to tell you that those who do not have, or do not want, this Mass, can please God just as much in other ways; there is the intellectual fraud, who has a difficulty about the ignorant native that just has to be solved before he can see his way clear to evangelize the Protestant next door; there is the sociological fraud, who perceives that his first duty to non-Catholics is to give them a higher standard of living, and not the Body and Blood of Our Lord; and there is the patriotic fraud, to whom the Bill of Rights and the Apostles’ Creed are all one thing and who tries to make it appear that God, like America, regards neither race, color, nor creed.

    It does not require a lot of study recognize a fraud or a reasoned argument to prove that that is what he is. The Faith is wonderfully simple and uninvolved, being for children and the childlike and providing not merely reasons but insights. It equips you to make judgments that are swift, sure, and just; and there is nothing so easy to spot, for the pure of heart who truly have the Faith, as a fraud.

    Take Bishop Sheen, for instance, dressing up in his episcopal robes to present to the five million Faith-hungry Americans who listen to him on television a “non-sectarian” message that he himself has devised. Every Catholic knows that he is not speaking as a true bishop should.

    To detect a fraud, there is no surer way than this: If a man says he believes that the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ are really and truly present in the Blessed Eucharist and, yet, does not tell non-Catholics about this Eucharist, he is a fraud. If a man pretends that he loves non-Catholics and — as evidence of this love — offers them some other gift, like social improvements or assurances of his own goodwill toward them, rather than the great Gift of the Bread of Life, he is a fraud. If a man pretends to love the Eucharist and at the same time defends those who scoff at it and blaspheme it and says they are good and sincere people who are on the way to saving their souls, he is a fraud. It does not matter who he is, or what prestige and dignity he might have either in the world or in the Church, or what reasons and excuses he might be able to offer for his behavior, if he acts in this way, you can know, without any doubt, that he is a fraud. It is that simple." - From Point Magazine edited under Fr. Leonard Feeney http://fatherfeeney.org/point/53-apr.html
    "The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a man who thinks other people can get along without It. The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a communicant who thinks he needs It but someone else does not. The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a communicant who offers others any charity ahead of this Charity of the Bread of Life." -Fr. Leonard Feeney, Bread of Life


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    « Reply #1 on: August 11, 2014, 01:27:57 PM »
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  • A Pray For the Conversion of America

    O Mary, mother of mercy and refuge of sinners, we beseech thee,
    be pleased to look with pitiful eyes upon poor heretics and schismatics.

    Thou who art the seat of wisdom, enlighten the minds that are miserably enfolded in the darkness of ignorance and sin, that they may clearly know that the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Roman Church is the one true Church of Jesus Christ, outside of which neither holiness nor salvation can be found.

    Finish the work of their conversion by obtaining for them the grace to accept all the truths of our Holy Faith, and to submit themselves to the Supreme Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Jesus Christ on earth; that so, being united with us in the sweet chains of divine charity, there may soon be one only fold under the same one Shepherd; and may we all, O glorious virgin, sing forever with exultation: Rejoice, O virgin Mary, thou only hast destroyed all heresies in the whole world.
    "The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a man who thinks other people can get along without It. The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a communicant who thinks he needs It but someone else does not. The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a communicant who offers others any charity ahead of this Charity of the Bread of Life." -Fr. Leonard Feeney, Bread of Life


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    « Reply #2 on: August 12, 2014, 06:36:50 AM »
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  • The apparently well-meaning Father Feeney excommunicated himself.  Evangelizing with his words seems unfruitful for the purpose of bringing people into the Church.  May as well quote Luther.  

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    « Reply #3 on: August 12, 2014, 06:52:02 AM »
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  • Quote from: Himagain
    The apparently well-meaning Father Feeney excommunicated himself.  Evangelizing with his words seems unfruitful for the purpose of bringing people into the Church.  May as well quote Luther.  


    Evangelizing with Fr Feeney's words would be awkward because the post-Vatican II church now preaches in a manner that Fr Feeney describes as a fraud.  


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    « Reply #4 on: August 12, 2014, 07:01:38 AM »
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  • Father Feeney is anathema to the conciliar Church and the modern mind, which has been shaped by it, simply because he is Catholic.


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    « Reply #5 on: August 12, 2014, 07:11:46 AM »
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    Although all frauds have the same general intention, there are as many different varieties of them as there are different excuses for being ashamed of the Faith in the presence of non-Catholics. For example, there is the pious fraud, the archetype of them all, who boasts of his daily attendance at Mass, but who is equally anxious to tell you that those who do not have, or do not want, this Mass, can please God just as much in other ways;


    Excellent.

    Thanks for posting this!
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #6 on: August 13, 2014, 05:11:48 PM »
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    Although all frauds have the same general intention, there are as many different varieties of them as there are different excuses for being ashamed of the Faith in the presence of non-Catholics. For example, there is the pious fraud, the archetype of them all, who boasts of his daily attendance at Mass, but who is equally anxious to tell you that those who do not have, or do not want, this Mass, can please God just as much in other ways;


    Excellent.

    Thanks for posting this!


    Your welcome. I think the whole magazine is worth a read if you are not already familiar with it. Just follow the link in my original post.
    "The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a man who thinks other people can get along without It. The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a communicant who thinks he needs It but someone else does not. The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a communicant who offers others any charity ahead of this Charity of the Bread of Life." -Fr. Leonard Feeney, Bread of Life

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    « Reply #7 on: August 13, 2014, 05:17:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: J.Paul
    Father Feeney is anathema to the conciliar Church and the modern mind, which has been shaped by it, simply because he is Catholic.


    Father Feeney's words also brought down the pre-Vatican II Church on him. Feeneyism is not the solution, it is another problem.  

    The enemy of my enemy is not by that my friend.
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic


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    « Reply #8 on: August 13, 2014, 07:47:59 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ambrose
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    Father Feeney is anathema to the conciliar Church and the modern mind, which has been shaped by it, simply because he is Catholic.


    Father Feeney's words also brought down the pre-Vatican II Church on him. Feeneyism is not the solution, it is another problem.  

    The enemy of my enemy is not by that my friend.


    Yes, he ran afoul of the heretics. He was not the problem, he was the clarion call which the modernists smothered, leaving us now with a Church, where everyone can be saved, excepting , those who do not believe that everyone can be saved.

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    « Reply #9 on: August 13, 2014, 08:08:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: GJC
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    Take Bishop Sheen, for instance, dressing up in his episcopal robes to present to the five million Faith-hungry Americans who listen to him on television a “non-sectarian” message that he himself has devised. Every Catholic knows that he is not speaking as a true bishop should.


    This is so true. This man actually scared me as a kid when he was on t.v., I though he was Count Dracula the way he flung that cape around. Now when I watch these speeches today, "non sectarian" perfectly describes the messages.

    He certainly was not speaking as a true bishop should, but what about acting like one?





    Thanks for the link, I enjoyed that clip.

    I found this one too, very scary...

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    « Reply #10 on: August 13, 2014, 10:53:54 PM »
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    And this is the devil speaking through him again:

    "The good Buddhist, the good Confucianist, the good Moslem, are all saved by Christ and not by Buddhism, or Islam, or Confucianism but through their sacraments, their prayers, their asceticism, their morality, their good life." Fulton Sheen (p. 148)  ,Treasure in Clay


    GJC is indeed in the 1% percent  :smile:
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    « Reply #11 on: August 13, 2014, 10:58:52 PM »
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    And this is the devil speaking through him again:

    "The good Buddhist, the good Confucianist, the good Moslem, are all saved by Christ and not by Buddhism, or Islam, or Confucianism but through their sacraments, their prayers, their asceticism, their morality, their good life." Fulton Sheen (p. 148)  ,Treasure in Clay


    13. Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession of any kind of religion, as long as morality is maintained. Surely, in so clear a matter, you will drive this deadly error far from the people committed to your care. With the admonition of the apostle that "there is one God, one faith, one baptism" may those fear who contrive the notion that the safe harbor of salvation is open to persons of any religion whatever. They should consider the testimony of Christ Himself that "those who are not with Christ are against Him," and that they disperse unhappily who do not gather with Him. Therefore "without a doubt, they will perish forever, unless they hold the Catholic faith whole and inviolate." - Pope Gregory XVI Mirari Vos http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Greg16/g16mirar.htm
    "The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a man who thinks other people can get along without It. The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a communicant who thinks he needs It but someone else does not. The Blessed Eucharist means nothing to a communicant who offers others any charity ahead of this Charity of the Bread of Life." -Fr. Leonard Feeney, Bread of Life

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    « Reply #12 on: August 13, 2014, 11:01:20 PM »
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    And this is the devil speaking through him again:

    "The good Buddhist, the good Confucianist, the good Moslem, are all saved by Christ and not by Buddhism, or Islam, or Confucianism but through their sacraments, their prayers, their asceticism, their morality, their good life." Fulton Sheen (p. 148)  ,Treasure in Clay


    13. Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession of any kind of religion, as long as morality is maintained. Surely, in so clear a matter, you will drive this deadly error far from the people committed to your care. With the admonition of the apostle that "there is one God, one faith, one baptism" may those fear who contrive the notion that the safe harbor of salvation is open to persons of any religion whatever. They should consider the testimony of Christ Himself that "those who are not with Christ are against Him," and that they disperse unhappily who do not gather with Him. Therefore "without a doubt, they will perish forever, unless they hold the Catholic faith whole and inviolate." - Pope Gregory XVI Mirari Vos http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Greg16/g16mirar.htm


    By the time Fr. Feeney was censored for defending EENS, the vast majority of the world’s bishops had already been tainted with Modernism. Most of the world’s bishops had already embraced the heresy of indifferentism, which explains why almost all of them signed the Vatican II docuмents just a short time later. They had already embraced the heretical idea that “invincible ignorance” saves those who die as non-Catholics. The stage had already been set up for rupturing with Church tradition and timeless truth.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #13 on: September 05, 2014, 01:22:58 AM »
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  • I had recently learned that Abp. Sheen's cause for canonization had come to a halt not long ago because of something to do with not being able to have his remains transferred from the Archdiocese of New York to the Diocese of Peoria.
    It is tragic that Abp. Sheen went along with the Council and all. I remember someone on Cathinfo mentioned something about his sitting on a park bench telling a boy his regrets later in life but could not verify. I think Abp. Sheen's earlier had to have been better, but I would have to look at it more. I have his first book called God and Intelligence in Modern Philosophy that discusses the issue of the lack of the use of reason in modern thought. The book was given an Imprimatur in the Archdiocese of Westminster and published in 1925.
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)