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Offline DigitalLogos

Dolan v. Sanborn - Bp. Sanborn replies
« on: November 15, 2021, 05:35:43 PM »
I recall a few weeks ago people asking about whether there was some sort of feud between Bp. Dolan and Bp. Sanborn. Apparently, due to a recent statement in a sermon and his bulletin, Bp. Dolan has said some unsavory things about Bp. Sanborn and his seminary and priests. In particular attacking the sedeprivationist position (Cassiciacuм thesis) and how some priests shut down due to state lockdown orders.

Here is Bp. Sanborn's response and recount of the accusations.

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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: Dolan v. Sanborn - Bp. Sanborn replies
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2021, 05:40:28 PM »
Attached is the bulletin in question and Bp. Dolan's remarks are as follows:


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Friday’s St. Martin I suffered exile and a miserable death rather than accept the heresy of only one will in Christ. It sounds obscure to most, doubtless, but we must hold the whole Catholic Faith without compromise. Even the best today want to make us believe that bad though he be, Bergoglio is the validly elected pope, and that the Novus Ordo, One World Church, is identical with the Catholic Church. That’s a theological error, and savors of heresy.
As we honor the anniversaries of our churches, we remember that there is only one Church, the unchanged Catholic Church. If people would only understand this truth, so much confusion would be dissipated, so much peace—though at a price!—would ensue.


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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Dolan v. Sanborn - Bp. Sanborn replies
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2021, 06:49:51 PM »
A stupid debate over trivial matters.  Recognizing, in the middle of an UNPRECEDENTED (and never to be repeated) CRISIS, that a heretic pope *might* still hold the governing office (and only the temporal power of the Vatican state) is just a stupid, petty, perfectionist thing to argue about.  It's so minimal and ridiculous to fight over that one might question the masculinity of those who do so.
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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: Dolan v. Sanborn - Bp. Sanborn replies
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2021, 07:06:42 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 15, 2021, 06:49:51 PM
A stupid debate over trivial matters.  Recognizing, in the middle of an UNPRECEDENTED (and never to be repeated) CRISIS, that a heretic pope *might* still hold the governing office (and only the temporal power of the Vatican state) is just a stupid, petty, perfectionist thing to argue about.  It's so minimal and ridiculous to fight over that one might question the masculinity of those who do so.
Agreed. Which is why I try to avoid participating in such debates anymore. No pronouncement from the Church has been made, therefore, there is no reason to fight each other (to the point of declaring others heretics) over such specific and narrow theological positions.

The one thing I will note is that it clearly establishes just where Bp. Sanborn stands on the matter of the Papacy. His sedeprivationism was, apparently, not clear to others in the sede community who dismiss the Thesis outright.
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Offline bodeens

Re: Dolan v. Sanborn - Bp. Sanborn replies
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2021, 07:07:25 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 15, 2021, 06:49:51 PM
A stupid debate over trivial matters.  Recognizing, in the middle of an UNPRECEDENTED (and never to be repeated) CRISIS, that a heretic pope *might* still hold the governing office (and only the temporal power of the Vatican state) is just a stupid, petty, perfectionist thing to argue about.  It's so minimal and ridiculous to fight over that one might question the masculinity of those who do so.
This. Last thing we need is another SSPV-like division where families are being ripped apart over theological talking points. There's such a desperate need for traditionalist unity right now and we're getting garbage the devil wants.
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