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Offline Geremia

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Churchmen applause Skorkas Christ-denying speech
« on: December 28, 2013, 07:38:17 PM »
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    How can Catholics applause this Christ-denying speech of Skorka? Isn't their applause a public act of apostasy? And who are the others in cassocks?

    As St. Thomas says regarding apostasy:
    Quote from: Summa II-II q. 12 a. 1 c.
    Apostasy denotes a backsliding from God. This may happen in various ways according to the different kinds of union between man and God. For, in the first place, man is united to God by faith; secondly, by having his will duly submissive in obeying His commandments; thirdly, by certain special things pertaining to supererogation such as the religious life, the clerical state, or Holy Orders. Now if that which follows be removed, that which precedes, remains, but the converse does not hold. Accordingly a man may apostatize from God, by withdrawing from the religious life to which he was bound by profession, or from the Holy Order which he had received: and this is called "apostasy from religious life" or "Orders." A man may also apostatize from God, by rebelling in his mind against the Divine commandments: and though man may apostatize in both the above ways, he may still remain united to God by faith.

     But if he give up the faith, then he seems to turn away from God altogether: and consequently, apostasy simply and absolutely is that whereby a man withdraws from the faith, and is called "apostasy of perfidy." In this way apostasy, simply so called, pertains to unbelief.
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    Churchmen applause Skorkas Christ-denying speech
    « Reply #1 on: December 28, 2013, 08:02:23 PM »
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  • Here's Skorka's full speech (if you know Spanish).
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    Churchmen applause Skorkas Christ-denying speech
    « Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 02:13:14 AM »
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    How can Catholics applause this Christ-denying speech of Skorka? Isn't their applause a public act of apostasy? And who are the others in cassocks?

    As St. Thomas says regarding apostasy:
    Quote from: Summa II-II q. 12 a. 1 c.
    Apostasy denotes a backsliding from God. This may happen in various ways according to the different kinds of union between man and God. For, in the first place, man is united to God by faith; secondly, by having his will duly submissive in obeying His commandments; thirdly, by certain special things pertaining to supererogation such as the religious life, the clerical state, or Holy Orders. Now if that which follows be removed, that which precedes, remains, but the converse does not hold. Accordingly a man may apostatize from God, by withdrawing from the religious life to which he was bound by profession, or from the Holy Order which he had received: and this is called "apostasy from religious life" or "Orders." A man may also apostatize from God, by rebelling in his mind against the Divine commandments: and though man may apostatize in both the above ways, he may still remain united to God by faith.

     But if he give up the faith, then he seems to turn away from God altogether: and consequently, apostasy simply and absolutely is that whereby a man withdraws from the faith, and is called "apostasy of perfidy." In this way apostasy, simply so called, pertains to unbelief.



    That's a really good quote, Geremia.  Thank you!  


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