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Offline Pax Vobis

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The una cum argument is an error, but it is not against the faith. It is correct as far as pastoral theology is concerned.

That makes no sense.  I've been told personally many times, and have heard it from the mouths of well-known sede clerics on videos, that those who go to 'una cum' masses commit a mortal sin.  If this is an erroneous stance, (and it is, because it is not from the Church, but is invented), then such a error is also mortally sinful, since its accusations, it's scandal and its topic are of the same moral gravity.  

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That makes no sense.  I've been told personally many times, and have heard it from the mouths of well-known sede clerics on videos, that those who go to 'una cum' masses commit a mortal sin.  If this is an erroneous stance, (and it is, because it is not from the Church, but is invented), then such a error is also mortally sinful, since its accusations, it's scandal and its topic are of the same moral gravity.  

What if someone called something a mortal sin for a certain reason, but it was wrong....but nevertheless was a mortal sin for another reason?

This is the case with the "una cum" threat. It is wrong in considering it a mortal sin for an intrinsic reason, but is still correct for considering it a mortal sin for an extrinsic reason. Here is the quote that proves it:

"Since heresy, and any kind of infidelity, is a mortal sin, they also sin mortally who expose themselves to its danger, whether by their association, or by listening to preaching, or by their reading." - St. Alphonsus Liguori


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What if someone called something a mortal sin for a certain reason, but it was wrong....but nevertheless was a mortal sin for another reason?

This is the case with the "una cum" threat. It is wrong in considering it a mortal sin for an intrinsic reason, but is still correct for considering it a mortal sin for an extrinsic reason. Here is the quote that proves it:

"Since heresy, and any kind of infidelity, is a mortal sin, they also sin mortally who expose themselves to its danger, whether by their association, or by listening to preaching, or by their reading." - St. Alphonsus Liguori
Why don't you answer in plain english?  The above answer rivals a Wessex riddle.  If one attends an 'una cum' mass, is it a mortal sin?  Y/N?  If so, why?  Show me from canon law, from a papal pronouncement or even from one of your much-beloved randomized saint quotes which usually are taken out of context.

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Why don't you answer in plain english?  The above answer rivals a Wessex riddle.  If one attends an 'una cum' mass, is it a mortal sin?  Y/N?  If so, why?  Show me from canon law, from a papal pronouncement or even from one of your much-beloved randomized saint quotes which usually are taken out of context.
It's not a riddle just because you don't understand it. Perhaps because you don`t know what "intrinsic" means. Lack of vocabulary or reading comprehension on the part of the reader does not a riddle make.

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If one attends an 'una cum' mass, is it a mortal sin?  Y/N?  If so, why?  Show me from canon law, from a papal pronouncement, etc.


 

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