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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Dogmatic Non Una cuм position was invented by Fr Cekada to beat the competition
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2017, 06:56:47 AM »
Quote from: Matthew on May 15, 2017, 08:46:50 AM
Fr. Cekada, who invented the "can't mention the Pope during Mass" line of thinking, is a flawed, self-serving priest.  He invented the "non una cuм" position to remove the competition, so he would be his parishioners' only choice.
I see this a lot among former SSPX priest, they invent their own business niche. This is what Protestant ministers are all about. They have to create a an attraction to their business or they can't be minsters. The SSPX does/did the same thing by their resistance position versus the "evil sedevacantes empire". The SSPX resistance position is a false opposition that actually serves the Vatican II church. Compare the SSPX, The Remnant, and Fr. Gruner "resistance" position to the resitance postion of Fr. Wathen or Atila Guimaraes and you will see that the SSPX is  a controlled, false opposition.
NEVERTHELESS, I highlight your numbers 1,2,3, for their position has no effect on my going to their mass if I have no other choice. My number one reason for going to mass anywhere is a valid priest.

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Remember the 3 points of What It Means to be a Traditional Catholic?
1. Leave the Conciliar Church/Novus Ordo completely behind (regardless of whether or not you have an alternative!)
2. Seek out true priests and 100% sure sacraments/Mass (Tridentine Mass, and a valid priest/bishop who will offer that Mass)
3. Without seeking any permission from Rome, since permission is not required to keep the Faith.
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Dogmatic Non Una cuм position was invented by Fr Cekada to beat the competition
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2017, 07:07:51 AM »
correction:

NEVERTHELESS, I highlight your numbers 1,2,3, for their the SSPX position has no effect on my going to their mass if I have no other choice. My number one reason for going to mass anywhere is a valid priest.

P.S. - excellent OP., I agree 100%
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dogmatic Non Una cuм position was invented by Fr Cekada to beat the competition
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 05:55:46 AM »
Even the dogmatic sedevacantist Dimond Brothers reject the "una cuм" nonsense.  They've actually done a significant amount of research on what that phrase means and what uttering it entails.
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Offline katholikos

Re: Dogmatic Non Una cuм position was invented by Fr Cekada to beat the competition
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2017, 06:21:12 AM »
I really do not want to get into a debate on this issue, and I myself am not entirely convinced of one side or the other, but I do want to say something concerning the claim being made here that Fr. Cekada "invented" the una cuм issue. That is simply not true.

I think it was around 2002, long before Fr. Cekada published anything on this, that Fr. Kevin Vaillancourt released a study on this issue, and he came to the same conclusion that Fr. Cekada would come to. The exact title of the study escapes me now, but I purchased a copy of it some years ago. From what I remember about this, I believe it was Fr. Guerard des Lauriers who first brought attention to the "una cuм" issue back in the 1970s.
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Re: Dogmatic Non Una cuм position was invented by Fr Cekada to beat the competition
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2017, 09:12:34 AM »
Sedevacantism is essentially a theory with no real, practical effect on a catholic's everyday life.  Both sedes and non-sede traditionalists must stick with tradition to save their souls.  The 'una cuм' stance was created to promote the erroneous idea that you have to 'pick the right trad mass or else'.  I'll never understand why the various trad clerics fight amongst themselves and I wouldn't want to be them on judgement day.  So scandalous!  
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