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Offline Ladislaus

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Francis Considers Ordaining Women to Diaconate
« on: August 02, 2016, 09:49:07 AM »
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  • http://www.france24.com/en/20160802-vatican-pope-francis-commission-women-roles-church-deacons

    So would this make R&R folks cross the threshold into considering sedevacantism as plausible?

    If not, will they be slowly boiled to death like frogs as they accept one of these things after another as compatible with Catholic faith?

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    Francis Considers Ordaining Women to Diaconate
    « Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 08:23:06 AM »
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  • The Commission will study Tradition and theology for this change, of course,
    theology may be shaped into an argument for almost anything, when it is
    bad theology.

    I am 99.9% certain the Commission will recommend approval of ordained
    Deaconesses.

    The makeup of the group consists of an equal number of men and women,
    six each, presided over by a Monsignor, who will likely go with the majority
    view (how democratic), and then Jorge Bergoglio will instruct the Canon lawyers
    to rewrite 1,989 years of Church Tradition (starting at Our Lord's ministry).

    As the Modernist, Freemason Occupied Vatican morphs into full-blown Universalism,
    a great Schism is approaching.
    We may very well see a situation in our lifetimes where contending pontiffs have different seats,
    with millions of traditional Catholics formally recognizing a
    Pope other than the Novus Ordo pontiff (if it will even be a man,
    that shoe will eventually drop also).

    I, for one, am glad that our chances of having a real Pope again are increasing.
    Whether that Pope sits in the Vatican or not is of lesser consequence
    than his validity.

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    Francis Considers Ordaining Women to Diaconate
    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2016, 09:15:51 PM »
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  • The very fact that Francis the Red has called a commission to study this tells you just how "Catholic" he is.
    "Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X

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    Francis Considers Ordaining Women to Diaconate
    « Reply #4 on: August 03, 2016, 10:35:51 PM »
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    So would this make R&R folks cross the threshold into considering sedevacantism as plausible?


    Francis' pontificate has made me considering Sedeprivationism as plausible.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    « Reply #5 on: August 04, 2016, 02:13:12 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    http://www.france24.com/en/20160802-vatican-pope-francis-commission-women-roles-church-deacons

    So would this make R&R folks cross the threshold into considering sedevacantism as plausible?

    If not, will they be slowly boiled to death like frogs as they accept one of these things after another as compatible with Catholic faith?


    Just like I said about the commission to investigate the "sanctity" of adulterer and sodomite "marriages" , I say, bring it on. The quicker they clearly reveal their real purpose, the quicker this battle will come to a head and the quicker that the people of good will, will see it.

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    I'm really inclined to believe that God allows this pontificate (anti-pontificate?) to be so blatantly scandalous to give people a chance (perhaps one of last chances before the chastisements foretold in Fatima and Akita) to see what is going on. Benedict XVI's "conservative" appearence managed to deceive multitudes into thinking that he holds the Catholic faith, with Francis even the Novus Ordites start to realize that this is a raving modernist.


    100% Ditto to that.

    From my thread "Bergolio, the Best Conciliar Pope for Catholics" http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Bergolio-the-Best-Conciliar-Pope-for-Catholics

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    God is being unbelievable merciful to man in allowing Bergolio to be the pope. JPII & B16 were good actors, but Bergolio is in the raw, he is not even Catholic in his every deed. Anyone that follows him (the SSPX?) is totally blind or does not care about the Faith. What better gift could real Catholics receive from God, than a clear sign? Anyone that does not see now does not want to see.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2016, 02:17:14 AM »
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    So would this make R&R folks cross the threshold into considering sedevacantism as plausible?


    Francis' pontificate has made me considering Sedeprivationism as plausible.


    I still do not feel the need to explain what it is or how it is (the variant of sede), I just simply do not believe the conciliar popes are valid popes, and since I came back to the Church, deep inside, I never believed they were valid popes.

    What the popes do and say have no effect on the religious life of my family. All I ask from God here on earth is a valid priest to provide my family the mass and the sacraments. The rest I get from God direct and there I ask for everything.  
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Francis Considers Ordaining Women to Diaconate
    « Reply #7 on: August 04, 2016, 09:50:48 AM »
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    Just like I said about the commission to investigate the "sanctity" of adulterer and sodomite "marriages" , I say, bring it on. The quicker they clearly reveal their real purpose, the quicker this battle will come to a head and the quicker that the people of good will, will see it.


    I tend to agree with this.

    Mr. B/Francis is simply making official things that have been around in the Novus Ordo for decades, but by doing so he is making it very clear what that false religion is all about and is knocking down the façade that the Novus Ordo = the Catholic Church. The quicker he does so the better, so that more people can see the truth and get out before they are cooked like the proverbial frog.

    I do hope that this latest outrage pushes more people "over the edge", but on the other hand, I can't help but think that if Francis declaring "there is no Catholic God", and his horrific Amoris Laetitia isn't enough, then I'm not sure that female deacons would be enough either. I've already watched the goal-posts shift many times and things that years ago R&R friends of mine said would be the "Straw that broke the camel's back" for them have come and gone yet they are still R&R.  :cry:


     

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