Author Topic: Does This Photo Anger You? (Read 4320 times)

stevusmagnus · « **on:** October 17, 2010, 08:48:25 PM »

Why or why not?

Charles · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2010, 09:03:17 PM »

No, not anger, but very troubling.

I blame the Hierarchy for caving and allowing it.
-CITH was NOT introduced by Rome, thus another example of the sweeping about face of VII
- The smile is irreverent... she is a product/fruit of the VII pulpit
- The one receiving is not kneeling, her head is not covered, nor is her hand. And even the argument of the liberals "it used to be done" fails because even so, she is receiving in the left hand, not the right...another about face

At least the one receiving appears she may be in fact adoring the host, but that still doesn't make it ok. She will still probably take it with her right hand and place it in her mouth. Another deviation from the rubrics of the time.

Thorn · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2010, 09:37:26 PM »

No, it doesn't anger me. It makes me deeply, deeply sad. I don't even have the words. I can count on one hand how many NO services I've been to, & some I simply walked out of as I felt that my presense signified that I somehow must agree. I'll let God judge if I missed my Sunday obligation when there was no traditional Mass to go to. I've kept far away from the NO & so has my family by the grace of God. I don't like even looking at the pictures.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2010, 09:50:59 PM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Why or why not?

Steve, You keep posting the Novus Ordo stuff. This is a trad forum. We pray for these people but do any of us care about these goings on? Connect the dots, and get away from that org.

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2010, 10:55:20 PM »

Yes, it makes me angry, thank God. I say thank God because I passed a long period where, like Thorn above, I only got sad when I saw these abominable abuses. Now, I am getting angry again.

I like being angry more than being sad. It suits me better.

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2010, 11:06:41 PM »

From Emerentiana:

"Steve, You keep posting the Novus Ordo stuff. This is a trad forum. We pray for these people but do any of us care about these goings on? Connect the dots, and get away from that org."

Erementiana, I ragged on stevus once for this very same reason. Then I realized that there might be newbies on this forum and that something like this might get their attention or at least get them to ask a few questions.

It might also serve as a reminder for us why we do what we do to get to a traditional Mass. I only have N.O. available right now and it's making me quite radical. I've read all the arguments a couple of dozen times and I still can't decide if we have two different Churches or One Church badly in need of restoration. My common sense tells me we have two different religions. My cowardice warns me to not do anything hasty because I might be schismatic. I really detest Martin Luther and I loathe doing anything he might have done.

(Please don't post any arguments here--I've seen 'em all, trust me. I just need some further guidance, of the celestial variety. I've probably already received enough heavenly help for a normal man to make a decision, but as I said, I'm weak and cowardly and I have an annoying tendency to question everything a hundred times over. I've missed out on a lot of good things that way, too.)

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 18, 2010, 12:16:46 AM »

I am proud to say that I have been a Catholic since
1953, when my Mother left the Methodist religion,
the religion my family identified with since the
reformation.
I have an old family photo showing me after
being baptized as a Methodist at age two.
Three years latter, I was conditionally
baptized as a Roman Catholic with my
Mother, and younger sister.
I am proud to say that I have never
to this day received communion in the hand,
nor from a woman.

Trinity · « **Reply #7 on:** October 18, 2010, 05:54:07 AM »

I've always said that anger is the devil's pain killer. We should all be making reparation for this and begging mercy.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #8 on:** October 18, 2010, 06:48:55 AM »

Contrary to popular belief, anger is not a sin. It is a God given emotion. I think many of us try to artificially repress this emotion because we have been told it is sinful to merely feel it. Anger is a motor that gives us energy to eliminate the cause. We must be careful our actions to do so are not sinful (let your anger be without sin). However it is natural and right to experience anger at sacrilege and irreverence.

Experiencing sadness puts us into the frame of mind of helplessness and victimhood. Little kids are sad. Puppies are sad. Injured people are sad. Anger motivates action. I think the day we stop getting angry at pictures above is the day we are finished as a movement.

Cheryl · « **Reply #9 on:** October 18, 2010, 07:32:37 AM »

No, the picture doesn't anger me. The N.O. believes that the act of changing the host and wine into the body and blood of Christ is only symbolic, therefore real transubstantiation doesn't take place. So, all I see in the picture is a waitress handing out cookies and kewl-aid, no problem there. Now if transubstantiation had really occurred, then yes I'd be angry.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2010, 10:03:49 AM »

Quote from: Cheryl

No, the picture doesn't anger me. The N.O. believes that the act of changing the host and wine into the body and blood of Christ is only symbolic, therefore real transubstantiation doesn't take place. So, all I see in the picture is a waitress handing out cookies and kewl-aid, no problem there. Now if transubstantiation had really occurred, then yes I'd be angry.

:applause:

Thorn · « **Reply #11 on:** October 18, 2010, 11:11:07 AM »

Cheryl, I couldn't have said it better myself! That explains my sadness on many different levels.
Stevus, do you have some PH.D up your sleeve that allows you to divine our anger/sadness complex? I think most of us now know about righteous anger, thank you. I'm not a victim but a soldier in a fight to the death & that makes me sad. Righteous anger I use elsewhere.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #12 on:** October 18, 2010, 11:15:33 AM »

Of course it makes me angry! My God's Person is being dishonored! I cant say (because I dont know like most of us) weather or not the priest believes in transubstiation or not or weather he's doing it validly or not, so I have to assume that Our Lord is present. That being the case, Im not going to be indifferent to the situation. I've had nothing but contempt for extraordinary ministers (the women especially) since my childhood, and I will maintain that sentiment to my dying day!

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #13 on:** October 18, 2010, 11:19:00 AM »

Quote from: Trinity

I've always said that anger is the devil's pain killer. We should all be making reparation for this and begging mercy.

You think the innocent St.Michael committed a sin when he unleashed his anger on lucifer rebellion against God? If he did he wouldnt be Prince of the Heavenly Host right now, and would be burning in hell with lucifer right now.

Leisa · « **Reply #14 on:** October 18, 2010, 11:51:45 AM »

I've seen worse. Once you figure out its not Catholic, then you are not shocked anymore. It's like they took over the Catholic buildings so when you walk in you think you are in a Catholic Church because there are icons ....etc.

But you quickly realize its not a Catholic Mass. I've seen some scary things in so-called Catholic Masses.

That's when you stop drinking the cool-aid and wake up and smell the coffee.

I guess I did get really mad in the beginning, even furious. I remember coming home from some Masses in a state of shock. What really angered me the most is when we had our traditional Priest taken away (for teaching the Catholic faith) and we had this guy come in and make a total mockery of the Mass.

It can really be a shock. I still haven't really recovered from it and from the fact I have no Mass to go to. But the :devil2: is running this world and that couldn't be more obvious in these times.