From Emerentiana:
 
"Steve,  You keep posting the Novus Ordo stuff.  This is  a trad forum.  We pray for these people but do any of us care about these goings on?  Connect the dots, and get away from that org."



   Erementiana, I ragged on stevus once for this very same reason. Then I realized that there might be newbies on this forum and that something like this might get their attention or at least get them to ask a few questions.

It might also serve as a reminder for us why we do what we do to get to a traditional Mass. I only have N.O. available right now and it's making me quite radical. I've read all the arguments a couple of dozen times and I still can't decide if we have two different Churches or One Church badly in need of restoration. My common sense tells me we have two different religions. My cowardice warns me to not do anything hasty because I might be schismatic. I really detest Martin Luther and I loathe doing anything he might have done.

(Please don't post any arguments here--I've seen 'em all, trust me. I just need some further guidance, of the celestial variety. I've probably already received enough heavenly help for a normal man to make a decision, but as I said, I'm weak and cowardly and I have an annoying tendency to question everything a hundred times over. I've missed out on a lot of good things that way, too.)

Emerentiana has a point.  I didn't register on CathInfo for this either.  The reason why I liked and do like this place is because it is more of an "advanced" forum that is past the things of the CAF level.

St. Jude makes good points too.  (By the way, St. Jude, you had better get busy on my novena intentions instead of posting away here . :wink:)  When you do come to a concrete conclusion, I would be very interested in hearing it.

Yes, the photo angers and nauseates me.  How dare they treat Our Lord in such a manner? (if they even truly believe this is Our Lord).

How dare any layperson touch Our Lord with unconsecrated hands?

 :barf:

They are apostates who encourage this mockery of Jesus Christ.

A great refresher I recommend reading right now for all:

http://www.dailycatholic.org/defectib.htm

All of you are convinced that transubstantiation does not take place at a novus ordo Mass?

Well, there are still priests ordained under the true Rite. I haven't formed an opinion on the others yet.

Quote from: Alexandria

All of you are convinced that transubstantiation does not take place at a novus ordo Mass?

Well, there are still priests ordained under the true Rite. I haven't formed an opinion on the others yet.

And they are all probably "retired" by now.

I won't say that it angers me, but I'm not certain that these people even know what they are doing.  These are lay people and they are just going along with times.  They are providing their "service."  We left the NO church for so many reasons, one of which was a simple matter of Real Presence or symbolic ritual?    

The people I know who like to pass out the wafers, by their own admission, are living in mortal sin.  I only knew one man who took his role as "extraordinary minister" seriously--he was at confession every Saturday before he "served."  I learned a long time ago that most of the people in NO are there for there own personal satisfaction.  Nothing else.

I can't tell you how many times I was chastised, yes chastised, for actually asking which side of the aisle I could expect the priest to be offering the Sacrament.  I was told on more than one occasion by more than one priest that I shouldn't be concerned about who was "giving me the Eucharist."  

What makes me angry, really angry, is that reverent Catholics who DO believe in the Real Presence, who receive kneeling and on the tongue are ostracized and ridiculed BY THE PRIESTS along with the parishioners.  

I know in my heart that there are really two churches--it doesn't take much to see it if you look.  We left because we couldn't be a part of it any more.  It was sorrowful.

Today, I pray often and beg God to have mercy on us all for allowing this to happen in the first place.

Don't be angry for God's sake, but be charitable for your own sake.  It is possible that we could get to heaven and find the most despicable person we know there, and turn ourselves away rather than associate with him/her.  Like the prodigal's brother, angry and stuck up, we may refuse to join the party in our righteous indignation.   It is for God to make these decisions, not us.  Who knows?  Maybe we'll find Fr. Feeney along with a whole mess of BoD and BoB converts.  Who knows?

Quote from: stevusmagnus

Why or why not?

 
 
Steve,  You keep posting the Novus Ordo stuff.  This is  a trad forum.  We pray for these people but do any of us care about these goings on?  Connect the dots, and get away from that org.  

I must admit that constantly talking about the Novus Ordo can get tiring, but stevus is doing a good thing to post this stuff. He's asking people for their opinion. For recent Catholic converts, stuff like this is important.