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Does the Church Teach that Judaism is True?
« on: April 05, 2010, 03:58:33 PM »
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    First, Happy Easter to everyone.

    I am a new Catholic (last easter). I was in a discussion with a Catholic who rejects the changes of The Vatican Council 2.

    He claimed that the Church changed its teachings to say that all religions were true.

    Being of Jєωιѕн heritage myself, I would have to say that I do not agree with the Church's position.

    If judaism were true, I would be a Jєω, and not catholic.

    I am freed from the law as Paul says, yet the Church teaches that those that are bonded are also following the Truth.

    Its been a hard journey for me to Catholicism, including issues with how the Church turned a blind eye to the nαzιs, coming to terms with my mistrust for rome and separating the actions of a few from the Truth of the gospels.

    Now I find that the Church says that judaism is actually true.

    Can someone please clarify this issue.



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    I have been invited to attend a church that claims to be "Vatican" Free.

    Still staying true to Catholicism, but not in communion with Vatican.

    Having gone through the torment of feeling like I was betraying my Jєωιѕн heritage to accept Catholicism, I find the position that Judaism is true deeply disturbing.
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    Does the Church Teach that Judaism is True?
    « Reply #1 on: April 05, 2010, 03:59:23 PM »
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    God Bless you. Your Jєωιѕн heritage is so vital to the Catholic community. If it were not for your ancestors, Christianity would not exist. Your people are of the Chosen of God that have brought forth Messiah Yeshua.

    As for the person inviting you to attend a "Catholic Church" claiming to be "Vatican Free", DO NOT ATTEND that church. There have been "catholic" groups that have denied the authority of the Pope and the Vatican Holy See.

    Catholics who deny or refuse the authority of the Pope and/or the Vatican are in a state called "SCHISM". Schism is kind of like telling the Pope and/or the Vatican where to stick it.
    Being in schism also means excommunicating oneself (refusal of Holy Communion and putting oneself in mortal sin 1st and 2nd and 3rd commandment).

    Next big word SEDEVACANTIST (from Latin title: SEDE VACANTE translated to EMPTY SEAT). Certain "so called Catholic" groups will use this title proclaiming Popes like Pius the XII were the last to hold the "Chair of St. Peter" position and all Popes John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II and Benedict XVI are antipopes in heresy to the Catholic church.

    Sedevacantists are in schism and excommunicated from the Vatican. Pope Benedict XVI has been working with a priest order Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) toward communion back to the Catholic church and back under the Vatican. I don't know if this is completed or still pending if some folks could get me information on the status of SSPX.

    Get the book Cathechism of the Catholic Church and the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

    God Bless You
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    Does the Church Teach that Judaism is True?
    « Reply #2 on: April 05, 2010, 04:06:18 PM »
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    • "ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan" ring any bells???
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    Does the Church Teach that Judaism is True?
    « Reply #3 on: April 05, 2010, 04:23:47 PM »
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    • Gladius,

    They have a thread right up your alley.

    http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=444252
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    Does the Church Teach that Judaism is True?
    « Reply #4 on: April 05, 2010, 04:40:45 PM »
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    Does the Church Teach that Judaism is True?
    « Reply #5 on: April 05, 2010, 04:47:42 PM »
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    Haven't you ever listened to Rosalind Moss or her brother?  Can't you tell what they are trying to do to Catholics?   CAF is one of the most, dare I say it, evil forums on the internet.  
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    « Reply #6 on: April 05, 2010, 04:59:59 PM »
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    • That's one of the reasons I started CathInfo -- to provide a forum dedicated to truth rather than lies.
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    Does the Church Teach that Judaism is True?
    « Reply #7 on: April 05, 2010, 05:01:07 PM »
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    Dylan

    Haven't you ever listened to Rosalind Moss or her brother?  Can't you tell what they are trying to do to Catholics?
     

    No, I've never heard of her. Could you explain?

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    CAF is one of the most, dare I say it, evil forums on the internet.


    Agreed.
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    Does the Church Teach that Judaism is True?
    « Reply #8 on: April 05, 2010, 05:08:17 PM »
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    Go onto the Catholic Answers Live website and go back in their archived shows as far as you can.   She is on every other Wednesday.  I stopped listening to the show (couldn't take it any more) quite some time ago so I don't know, since she has decided to start her own religious community, if she has put a lid on the judaizing, but try to find a show before she was called "Sr. Rosalind."  She and her brother are Jєωιѕн converts, and her brother has a website "Hebrew Catholics."
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    Does the Church Teach that Judaism is True?
    « Reply #9 on: April 05, 2010, 10:33:52 PM »
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    • Check this out from the Catholic Answers page on "Sr." Rosalind Moss:
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    Speaker Fees:
    Costs include an honorarium of $1,600 plus travel expenses. This includes two talks on the day of the event. Additional talks on the same day are $400.

    Want Sr. Rosalind to come to your area? Just make sure you have $1600-$2000 ready to fork over!
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    « Reply #10 on: April 06, 2010, 01:00:27 AM »
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    • Catholic Answers has the most fascinating threads about NFP.  That's all I know about it.
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    « Reply #11 on: April 06, 2010, 07:14:48 AM »
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    "ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan" ring any bells???


     :applause:
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    « Reply #12 on: April 06, 2010, 07:15:24 AM »
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    That's one of the reasons I started CathInfo -- to provide a forum dedicated to truth rather than lies.


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    « Reply #13 on: April 06, 2010, 07:16:30 AM »
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    Dylan

    Haven't you ever listened to Rosalind Moss or her brother?  Can't you tell what they are trying to do to Catholics?   CAF is one of the most, dare I say it, evil forums on the internet.  


    yet, Sungenis is attacked for pointing out their heresies.....yup, a new spring time....
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    « Reply #14 on: April 06, 2010, 07:17:57 AM »
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    Check this out from the Catholic Answers page on "Sr." Rosalind Moss:
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    Speaker Fees:
    Costs include an honorarium of $1,600 plus travel expenses. This includes two talks on the day of the event. Additional talks on the same day are $400.

    Want Sr. Rosalind to come to your area? Just make sure you have $1600-$2000 ready to fork over!


    geesh, where is she staying, the Waldorf Astoria or something..the Plaza Hotel?
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