Author Topic: Does praying with N.O./V2 caths count as praying with heretics?? (Read 4761 times)

Miser Peccator · « **Reply #35 on:** March 09, 2022, 08:04:38 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79 on March 09, 2022, 07:56:51 PM

He is just "subsisting in" the Chair of Peter.

"Subsisting in"

Nadir · « **Reply #36 on:** March 09, 2022, 08:34:13 PM »

Quote from: Philothea3 on March 09, 2022, 05:57:50 PM

Looks like it makes sense at the first look, but you can basically use the same logic for literally any heretics, or at least the followers of a heresy if not the inventors? Most likely they probably don't know the truth instead of knowing but denying.

You asked if praying with NO/Vat2 Catholics amounted to heresy. I gave you my answer, which is NO. Other people have said so in various charitable ways.

So what is the heresy that you speak of? It is the hierarchy of the Catholic Church which decides. In the meantime we do our best with what we have and what we haven't. It is not a simple laywoman, no matter how zealous she may be, who defines heresy. As much as you feel, as a neophyte, that you know best, you should learn to eat humble pie and learn from mature Catholics.

epiphany · « **Reply #37 on:** March 09, 2022, 08:35:06 PM »

Quote from: Philothea3 on March 08, 2022, 06:41:16 PM

No, it is not the same.
If they are baptized and practicing the faith as best as they know it, then you are safe. Just don't get sucked in to the divine mercy chaplet or other condemned prayers.

epiphany · « **Reply #38 on:** March 09, 2022, 08:36:24 PM »

Quote from: DigitalLogos on March 09, 2022, 10:27:35 AM

They have not been formally condemned as a group to be heretics, so no. The people making up the NO are at worst material heretics.

Now, if you know individuals who are formal heretics, by all means avoid praying with them.

That goes for ALL people, trads included, family included.

epiphany · « **Reply #39 on:** March 09, 2022, 08:38:11 PM »

Quote from: Philothea3 on March 09, 2022, 12:50:19 PM

Yet it's ok to say Pope Francis is a heretic? Hmm...

Tradition is VERY confusing sometimes.

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