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Re: Does anyone know the status Father Dolan in Redding?
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2019, 11:42:21 AM »
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  • Louie Vorrechio as keynote speaker at the national shrine for the main pilgrimage, a bishop attends the SSPX ordinations, the eparch consecrated the eparchy to our lady in response to a letter asking him to fulfil the Fatima request for the eparchy, there doesn't seem to be any antipathy to tradition, actually most of the recent crop of seminarians from the US are good in Syriac and Latin.
    The liturgy may look too modern for most but it is actually Antiochian
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    Re: Does anyone know the status Father Dolan in Redding?
    « Reply #16 on: February 23, 2019, 10:44:05 AM »
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  • As I recall, his name is Fr. Patrick Dolan.  I was there at his chapel in Redding, CA in 2003.
    He had converted his garage into a chapel, Mother of Sorrows chapel.

    I met him in Chico, CA, where he was saying the Tridentine Latin Mass at the St Theresa
    chapel.  I served at Mass several times in Chico and in Redding.

    Anyway, I don't know much about him after 2003.  He had left the SSPX before I met him,
    for what sounded like a good reason to me (at that time).  

    He was good friends with Fr Benedict Van Der Putten at that time.
    He was in the seminary in Winona, MN with Fr. Thomas(?) Scott.

    He seemed like a wise priest to me and more charitable than most.

    Yes, I also attended seminary with Father Dolan ... and all the others mentioned here.  Father Dolan was one of a group of 7 seminarians who were known for being just a tad rigoristic ... and who came to be known "affectionately" as the 7 Penitential Psalms.  I susequently heard stories of him yelling at penitents in the confessional so that he could be heard by the others waiting in line.  I'm sure that some of them quickly stepped out of line.

    Just as a learning lesson, the most rogoristic, almost Jansenistic, seminarians/priests are the ones who tended to suffer breakdowns at some point, the most notable having been Fr. Pierre DeLaPlace,  who was my spiritual director at STAS.  I really liked him, but he was incredibly strict, feeling out of some scrupulosity, that he had to be.  Ironically, however, it was he who singlehandedly cured me of scruples in a single Confession.  I still pray for him all the time.


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    Re: Does anyone know the status Father Dolan in Redding?
    « Reply #17 on: February 23, 2019, 10:47:27 AM »
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  • Louie Vorrechio as keynote speaker at the national shrine for the main pilgrimage, a bishop attends the SSPX ordinations, the eparch consecrated the eparchy to our lady in response to a letter asking him to fulfil the Fatima request for the eparchy, there doesn't seem to be any antipathy to tradition, actually most of the recent crop of seminarians from the US are good in Syriac and Latin.
    The liturgy may look too modern for most but it is actually Antiochian

    I knew a Maronite chorbishop in Chicago who welcomed SSPX seminarians at daily Mass.  He was very sympathetic to the SSPX.  I recall him battling with a younger priest who had been assigned to him ... on account of the latter being too liberal.

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    Re: Does anyone know the status Father Dolan in Redding?
    « Reply #18 on: February 23, 2019, 10:54:32 AM »
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  • The liturgy may look too modern for most but it is actually Antiochian
     
    Yet the things you call out as abuses have becone extremely widespread among the Maronites ... not unlike the "grass roots" spread of Communion in the Hand in the Western Rite, which was not originally sanctioned even by Modernist Rome.  And Rome also did not originally sanction altar girls either.  Thankfully the Maronite manner of distributing Holy Communion, with intincture, is not compatible with receiving in the hand ... or otherwise I suspect that they would have adopted that also.

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    Re: Does anyone know the status Father Dolan in Redding?
    « Reply #19 on: February 23, 2019, 12:24:26 PM »
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  • Yes, I also attended seminary with Father Dolan ... and all the others mentioned here.  Father Dolan was one of a group of 7 seminarians who were known for being just a tad rigoristic ... and who came to be known "affectionately" as the 7 Penitential Psalms.  I susequently heard stories of him yelling at penitents in the confessional so that he could be heard by the others waiting in line.  I'm sure that some of them quickly stepped out of line.

    Just as a learning lesson, the most rogoristic, almost Jansenistic, seminarians/priests are the ones who tended to suffer breakdowns at some point, the most notable having been Fr. Pierre DeLaPlace,  who was my spiritual director at STAS.  I really liked him, but he was incredibly strict, feeling out of some scrupulosity, that he had to be.  Ironically, however, it was he who singlehandedly cured me of scruples in a single Confession.  I still pray for him all the time.

    Yeah, where's the balance?
    The neo-SSPX is annually cranking-out laid-back "yes-men" by the dozens.
    That's our new priesthood :facepalm:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Does anyone know the status Father Dolan in Redding?
    « Reply #20 on: February 23, 2019, 05:57:11 PM »
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  • Yeah, where's the balance?
    The neo-SSPX is annually cranking-out laid-back "yes-men" by the dozens.
    That's our new priesthood :facepalm:

    Yes, it's almost like they have a clone factory.  Back in my day every SSPX priest had a unique personality.  Now I can't tell one from another; they look and act and talk the same.

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    Re: Does anyone know the status Father Dolan in Redding?
    « Reply #21 on: February 24, 2019, 01:02:01 PM »
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  • I have seen videos of it but in both churches near me altar girls don't happen, it seems to be more frequent in Lebanon and the north east. I have heard priests chase out women who were  changing flowers saying your female parts will dry up if you step foot in my sanctuary. You can't go further than the bema.
    Personally I enjoy the privilege of the newer canons that let me go to the Oriental Orthodox, so when I go to a Maronite liturgy the stupidity of the translations which is the biggest problem is helped by knowing what is supposed to be said.
    Besides Antiochian theology is polar opposite of Roman. The people in general are clueless about philosophy and the theology is semetic, if you can't explain it in 5minutes it's too complicated, a discussion about how the traditional fans and how they are supposed to be used went over the head of a heirarch.
    That being said how would you explain to them why Hadad can't serve at liturgy the Pope has it at the Latin church of the rainbow flag?
    They are the people it was said of in scripture, they sat down to eat and rose up to play.
    The church is Syro-Maronite and is in reality held together by the non Lebanese
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    Re: Does anyone know the status Father Dolan in Redding?
    « Reply #22 on: February 24, 2019, 01:05:44 PM »
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  • Also I imagine Fr Doran joined since the other Syriac Churches are uber ethnic, which is ok for the avg Catholic but a priest being the outsider puts a cramp on any type of relationship with the faithful.
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    Re: Does anyone know the status Father Dolan in Redding?
    « Reply #23 on: December 08, 2019, 01:41:37 PM »
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  • Yes, I also attended seminary with Father Dolan ... and all the others mentioned here.  Father Dolan was one of a group of 7 seminarians who were known for being just a tad rigoristic ... and who came to be known "affectionately" as the 7 Penitential Psalms.  I susequently heard stories of him yelling at penitents in the confessional so that he could be heard by the others waiting in line.  I'm sure that some of them quickly stepped out of line.

    Just as a learning lesson, the most rogoristic, almost Jansenistic, seminarians/priests are the ones who tended to suffer breakdowns at some point, the most notable having been Fr. Pierre DeLaPlace,  who was my spiritual director at STAS.  I really liked him, but he was incredibly strict, feeling out of some scrupulosity, that he had to be.  Ironically, however, it was he who singlehandedly cured me of scruples in a single Confession.  I still pray for him all the time.
    I'm curious about Fr. Delaplace. When you say he suffered a breakdown, do you mean literally? I remember him as well, although only from visiting the seminary twice in the late Eighties. Obviously something terrible happened to cause him not to be serving as a priest any longer.