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Offline ascanio1

Re: Doctrine/Dogma errors in NO
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2019, 05:52:30 AM »
Quote from: Jews Did 911 on November 14, 2019, 08:13:17 PM
Read Fr. Wathen's book The Great Sacrilege.
Thank you. Another community member already recommended it and I already bought it. Is on my reading list but, time constraints have impeded me reading it.
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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

Re: Doctrine/Dogma errors in NO
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2019, 10:17:56 AM »
Read the Douay- Rheims bible.  

Woman aren’t supposed to be on altar or serving communion. Also, no altar girls. 
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Offline ascanio1

Re: Doctrine/Dogma errors in NO
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2019, 12:42:05 PM »
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on November 16, 2019, 10:17:56 AM
Read the Douay- Rheims bible. Woman aren’t supposed to be on altar or serving communion. Also, no altar girls.
Yes, thank you. This is one good point to begin. Another error would be placing of the body of Christ on a non consacrated hand.

These are the kind of errors that I am searching for but I will also need to locate the phrase or what paragraph within the V2 that is (was being) interpreted to justify the introduction of the error.

Also, if possible, I am trying to separate the errors of the liturgy from the errors specific of the modern Missal.

It would be interesting to compile a similar list to the 25 errors posted herein. A list where there is the Douay-Rheims bible quote that explains why there should not be any women on the altar serving communion and what phrase of the V2 is being used today to justify it.
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Offline Yeti

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Re: Doctrine/Dogma errors in NO
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2019, 01:18:38 PM »
In the Council of Trent, Session 22, Canon 9 we have the following (Denzinger 956):

If anyone says that the rite of the Roman Church, according to which a part of the canon and the words of consecration are pronounced in a low tone, is to be condemned, or that the Mass ought to be celebrated in the vernacular only, or that water should not be mixed with the wine that is to be offered in the chalice because it is contrary to the institution of Christ: let him be anathema.

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Offline Yeti

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Re: Doctrine/Dogma errors in NO
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2019, 01:24:36 PM »
The Vatican 2 sect incurs anathema from several other canons of the Council of Trent:

Can. 1. If anyone says that in the Mass a true and real sacrifice is not offered to God, or that the act of offering is nothing else than Christ being given to us to eat: let him be anathema

The definition of the Mass in the new missal basically said the new mass was a meal and didn't say it was a sacrifice. There are other canons of Trent that are also frequently denied:

Can. 6. If anyone says that the canon of the Mass contains errors, and should therefore be abrogated: let him be anathema.

Can. 7. If anyone says that the ceremonies, vestments, and outward signs, which the Catholic Church uses in the celebration of Masses, are incentives to impiety rather than the services of piety: let him be anathema. (Actually the Recognize & Resist people who condemn the New Mass while saying it is the Mass of the Catholic Church violate this canon too.)

Can. 8. If anyone says that Masses in which the priest alone communicates sacramentally, are illicit and are therefore to be abrogated: let him be anathema.
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