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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Do you...
« on: July 19, 2025, 12:59:29 AM »
Tell Catholics/ "trads" you just meet your position on the new rite being doubtful/invalid?

That the NO 'mass' is a sacraligious abomination?

If you see someone with a divine mercy image do you go out of your way to tell them it's a false satanic deception?

I don't really do so. Only 1 person at my chapel knows my position on the new rites. I didn't want to come off as autistic and presumption and scare them off if i don't know them well. Is this prudence or cowardice?

It's not like they are automatically going to believe what i tell them, especially against their 'authority' figures.

Re: Do you...
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2025, 02:29:17 AM »
It is always wise to be prudent. We might be going to the catacombs soon so obviously it's wise to be discerning especially with the heretics in our midsts. But I believe a cautious life-line can be offered if you believe it is going to be effective.

It's good to genuinely know and believe your position. So, there could be a list of reasons for a newbie

1) The NO isn't as reverent
2) The Latin Mass reflects the faith of our fathers
3) The NO came out of V2. Here are some issues with the V2 Church
4) Now, given the above ... would you continue to go to the NO? and if so why?

Then you might spot a modernist - e.g. I actually uncritically believe in what V2 popes say here, and the previous statements of the popes 🚨🚨🚨

Then, ... And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words: going forth out of that house or city shake off the dust from your feet. Matthew 10:14

The enemy would like us to be impotently sitting on the internet and refusing to the discuss the issues in public. But, why did ++ Lefebvre publish works like They Have Uncrowned Him and An Open Letter to Confused Catholics?

Traditional Catholicism that is neutered and tame is like a re-enactment society. We must have a goal and support growth away from the heresies.. and growth towards the tradition.

Our goal is to grow, not be a society of effete tea drinkers... or a good joke for the modernists ... we have to be more effective than that...



Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Do you...
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2025, 02:51:02 AM »
It is always wise to be prudent. We might be going to the catacombs soon so obviously it's wise to be discerning especially with the heretics in our midsts. But I believe a cautious life-line can be offered if you believe it is going to be effective.

It's good to genuinely know and believe your position. So, there could be a list of reasons for a newbie

1) The NO isn't as reverent
2) The Latin Mass reflects the faith of our fathers
3) The NO came out of V2. Here are some issues with the V2 Church
4) Now, given the above ... would you continue to go to the NO? and if so why?

Then you might spot a modernist - e.g. I actually uncritically believe in what V2 popes say here, and the previous statements of the popes 🚨🚨🚨

Then, ... And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words: going forth out of that house or city shake off the dust from your feet. Matthew 10:14

The enemy would like us to be impotently sitting on the internet and refusing to the discuss the issues in public. But, why did ++ Lefebvre publish works like They Have Uncrowned Him and An Open Letter to Confused Catholics?

Traditional Catholicism that is neutered and tame is like a re-enactment society. We must have a goal and support growth away from the heresies.. and growth towards the tradition.

Our goal is to grow, not be a society of effete tea drinkers... or a good joke for the modernists ... we have to be more effective than that...


I've met a few people that go between the indult and sspx, not sure if they are just ignorant or don't believe there is an issue with the new rites.

Re: Do you...
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2025, 02:55:15 AM »
I've met a few people that go between the indult and sspx, not sure if they are just ignorant or don't believe there is an issue with the new rites.
The former introductory pamphlet by the SSPX said we ought not to go to indult masses... or the FSSP ...

I'm not sure about the most recent pamphlet.

Re: Do you...
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2025, 03:02:49 AM »
Although the Latin Mass is the greatest prayer as ++ Lefebvre said it must be more than this ... what about the dogmas and the heresies?

And then look at Latin Masses with altar girls as has happened.

Just the Latin Mass is not enough. Then someone is a Protestant who goes to the Extraordinary Form. What is going to save you? What you believe ... 

Bugnini did experiments with the Latin Mass as well...

It is not enough.