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Offline Renzo

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« on: January 14, 2014, 12:51:18 AM »
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  • This stupid add is insulting to me, because it seems to mock papal authority, simply because it isn't a "democracy;"  the pope is more like a monarch, than a president.   Even if they've quit wearing the tiara!  
    We are true israel and israel is in bondage.  


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    « Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 01:50:31 AM »
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  • Do I approve of what ?

    The fact that we have over 3300 baby murders a day in the USA and Frank told us to get over it ?

    The fact that abortion doctors are posting signs in front of their clinics quoting him ?

    Dozens if not hundreds of sons and daughters have been chopped to little bits by their mothers thanks to Pope Frank.


    Offline poche

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    « Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 02:55:53 AM »
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  • Here is what Pope Francis said about abortion. I agree with the pope on this.

    Pope Francis on Monday criticized abortion as evidence of a "throwaway culture" that wastes people as well as food, saying such a mentality is a threat to world peace.

    Francis also urged better respect for migrants and denounced the persecution of Christians in Asia, Africa and the Middle East in his global survey of world crises delivered to diplomats accredited to the Holy See.

    Saying hunger is a threat to world peace, he noted that not only food but human beings themselves are often discarded as unnecessary.

    "We cannot be indifferent to those suffering from hunger, especially children, when we think of how much food is wasted every day in many parts of the world immersed in what I have often termed 'the throwaway culture,'" Francis said.

    That culture, he said, also affects the unborn child.

    "For example, it is frightful even to think that there are children, victims of abortion, who will never see the light of day," he said. Francis has generally limited his exhortations about abortion, saying church teaching is well known and that he prefers to speak less about the church's moralizing rules and more about its positive, welcoming message.

    In remarks that were less diplomatic and more a reflection of his own priorities, Francis called for the elderly to be treated with respect that their wisdom warrants, and for children to be protected from exploitation, slavery and hunger.

    He lamented those who have died trying to find better lives for themselves and their families, citing migrants from his own Latin America trying to reach the United States and Africans seeking to enter Europe.

    He urged Italians in particular to "renew their praiseworthy commitment of solidarity" toward migrants, an allusion to the current debate in Italy to revise its restrictive immigration policies.

    Each year, thousands attempt risky voyages across the Mediterranean in unseaworthy boats heading toward Italian shores, and hundreds die en route. Last year, Francis visited the island of Lampedusa, the destination of choice for smuggling operations where more than 360 people died in a single shipwreck on Oct. 3.

    From Syria to Mali, North Korea to South Sudan, Francis called for the international community to do more to end conflicts and care for the most vulnerable.

    Francis also decried the persecution of Christians that has forced many to flee the Middle East, resulted in bƖσσdshɛd in places like Nigeria and Mali and deprived Christians of their right to worship in parts of Asia.

    "We must never cease to do good, even when it is difficult and demanding, and when we endure acts of intolerance if not genuine persecution," he said.

    http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-abortion-evidence-39-throwaway-culture-39-120320575.html

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    « Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 11:07:40 AM »
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  • Pope Francis is a dyed in the wool seamless fabric wolf, poche.

    His latest comments are only to appease the strong backlash he received but did not expect that we should not be obsessed with abortion baby murder. That opening the doors wide and going out on the road to bring in the masses of perverts is more important than a few thousand dead babies everyday. Jesus focused on the quality- always. He said the road was narrow and that many would follow but few would be chosen.

    Simply Francis is about numbers, he is about the quantity and not the quality.

    Francis is a fool. Too late Frank, now everyone has a reason to dislike you.

    He is an extremely dishonest man.

    Offline TKGS

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    « Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 11:16:35 AM »
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    Here is what Pope Francis said about abortion. I agree with the pope on this.


    But you only tell us some of what Bergoglio has said on the subject.


    Offline Marlelar

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    « Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 11:21:51 AM »
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  • In the very first sentence of that quote from Yahoo he equates abortion to throwing away FOOD ! ! !  (Soylent Green anyone?)  The man has no sense of proportion.

    Marsha

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    « Reply #6 on: January 14, 2014, 11:25:33 AM »
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  • Quote from: Marlelar
    In the very first sentence of that quote from Yahoo he equates abortion to throwing away FOOD ! ! !  (Soylent Green anyone?)  The man has no sense of proportion.

    Marsha


    what Pope Francis wants to say is that it is our fault 'victims' are killing their sons and daughters.

    It has nothing to do with being sinful or personal accountability.

    It amounts to the argument that because I am not paying for diapers and formula I am the killer.

    Ha ha... I sat outside a clinic for 2 years watching couples come in with brand new SUVs and sports cars I could never hope to afford.

    Offline holysoulsacademy

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    « Reply #7 on: January 14, 2014, 05:10:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: crossbro
    Quote from: Marlelar
    In the very first sentence of that quote from Yahoo he equates abortion to throwing away FOOD ! ! !  (Soylent Green anyone?)  The man has no sense of proportion.

    Marsha


    what Pope Francis wants to say is that it is our fault 'victims' are killing their sons and daughters.

    It has nothing to do with being sinful or personal accountability.

    It amounts to the argument that because I am not paying for diapers and formula I am the killer.

    Ha ha... I sat outside a clinic for 2 years watching couples come in with brand new SUVs and sports cars I could never hope to afford.


    It is always argued that poverty is one of the biggest reasons for contraception and abortion.  

    People love to insinuate that when one is poor they don't get a good education
    therefore they get themselves pregnant
    therefore they deserve contraceptives so they don't commit abortions
    because they are so poor they should not bring a child into their world of poverty,
    - it would be a great sense of injustice!
    ALL A BUNCH OF HOGWASH, BALONEY, BULLC**P!

    Marlelar - I am glad someone else noticed how abortion was placed on the same level as throwing away food - unbelievable - the indignation I felt could not even get past that part, and I just felt more and more repulsed after that.

    Crossbro - I can almost bet you that if you took the entire population of "poor" people and the entire population of "affluent" people, the percentage of abortions in the affluent section would be higher than in the poor.  My experience from being around poor people, especially those who live outside the USA, is that they have a greater sense for life and a greater fear of God, and would not abort because of that.  But once you have the means and opportunity (meaning you are rich enough to afford one, even if you have to travel elsewhere), you take that opportunity.  I know more women of my age who are not necessarily poor who have had abortions and some even more than one.  And it is shocking to see them act so cavalier about it.


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    « Reply #8 on: January 14, 2014, 10:22:49 PM »
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  •  :dancing-banana: :applause:
    I know a woman who has had seven abortions.  She and her husband have one adult daughter whom they support financially at age 48.  They live in a million dollar home, own two fifth wheeler campers, a speedboat, get new cars every year, Mercedes for her, Jaguar for him.  They go on cruises several times a year, have a cook, maid, lawn and garden service.  They are the wealthiest people I know--and they're both miserably discontent.
    Conversely, the poorest couple with whom I'm personally acquainted, when I first met them, had just welcomed their 13th child.  The oldest was 16, and there was a set of girl twins.  They were living in an old millhouse that had last been used as a chicken coop.  They had a 50 gallon drum homemade cooking/heating stove, a discarded mattress and the floor for a bed, an old door on two sawhorses for a table, and five-gallon buckets for chairs.  They ate in shifts from discarded margarine tubs.  A month earlier, they'd been excommunicated from the Nebraska Amish and put out of the house owned by the deacon of their church district.  Amazingly, they were among the happiest people I've ever met.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

    Offline poche

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    « Reply #9 on: January 14, 2014, 11:13:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: Marlelar
    In the very first sentence of that quote from Yahoo he equates abortion to throwing away FOOD ! ! !  (Soylent Green anyone?)  The man has no sense of proportion.

    Marsha

    What he is saying is that the society has become so perverse in that it throws away children like it throws away food that it doesn't want to eat.  

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    « Reply #10 on: January 14, 2014, 11:21:59 PM »
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  • Quote from: poche
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    In the very first sentence of that quote from Yahoo he equates abortion to throwing away FOOD ! ! !  (Soylent Green anyone?)  The man has no sense of proportion.

    Marsha

    What he is saying is that the society has become so perverse in that it throws away children like it throws away food that it doesn't want to eat.  


    Give it up. We know what he is saying, would you like a shovel so you can dig yourself into a deeper hole ?


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    « Reply #11 on: January 14, 2014, 11:33:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: poche
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    In the very first sentence of that quote from Yahoo he equates abortion to throwing away FOOD ! ! !  (Soylent Green anyone?)  The man has no sense of proportion.

    Marsha

    What he is saying is that the society has become so perverse in that it throws away children like it throws away food that it doesn't want to eat.  


    No he's not.  What he is saying is that the epidemic of abortion is due to that throwaway attitude of society.  As in, society starts throwing everything away.  They trow away diapers, they throw away towels, they throw away automobiles, and this leads to throwing away babies.  

    He has it backwards.  In reality, the satanic sacrifice of these innocent babies has fueled satan's power, and created the throwaway society about which he speaks.

    Offline poche

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    « Reply #12 on: January 14, 2014, 11:57:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: SoldierOfChrist
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    In the very first sentence of that quote from Yahoo he equates abortion to throwing away FOOD ! ! !  (Soylent Green anyone?)  The man has no sense of proportion.

    Marsha

    What he is saying is that the society has become so perverse in that it throws away children like it throws away food that it doesn't want to eat.  


    No he's not.  What he is saying is that the epidemic of abortion is due to that throwaway attitude of society.  As in, society starts throwing everything away.  They trow away diapers, they throw away towels, they throw away automobiles, and this leads to throwing away babies.  

    He has it backwards.  In reality, the satanic sacrifice of these innocent babies has fueled satan's power, and created the throwaway society about which he speaks.

    It should be noted that the pope is condemning this evil mentality and also he is condemning the evil that is abortion.

    Offline SoldierOfChrist

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    « Reply #13 on: January 15, 2014, 12:09:51 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
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    In the very first sentence of that quote from Yahoo he equates abortion to throwing away FOOD ! ! !  (Soylent Green anyone?)  The man has no sense of proportion.

    Marsha

    What he is saying is that the society has become so perverse in that it throws away children like it throws away food that it doesn't want to eat.  


    No he's not.  What he is saying is that the epidemic of abortion is due to that throwaway attitude of society.  As in, society starts throwing everything away.  They trow away diapers, they throw away towels, they throw away automobiles, and this leads to throwing away babies.  

    He has it backwards.  In reality, the satanic sacrifice of these innocent babies has fueled satan's power, and created the throwaway society about which he speaks.

    It should be noted that the pope is condemning this evil mentality and also he is condemning the evil that is abortion.


    Absolutely, but he still doesn't get it.  Abortion is more than just a symptom of a societal attitude of disposability of things; it is satanic sacrifice.  It is one of the greatest evils in existence.

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    « Reply #14 on: January 15, 2014, 12:14:53 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
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    In the very first sentence of that quote from Yahoo he equates abortion to throwing away FOOD ! ! !  (Soylent Green anyone?)  The man has no sense of proportion.

    Marsha

    What he is saying is that the society has become so perverse in that it throws away children like it throws away food that it doesn't want to eat.  


    No he's not.  What he is saying is that the epidemic of abortion is due to that throwaway attitude of society.  As in, society starts throwing everything away.  They trow away diapers, they throw away towels, they throw away automobiles, and this leads to throwing away babies.  

    He has it backwards.  In reality, the satanic sacrifice of these innocent babies has fueled satan's power, and created the throwaway society about which he speaks.

    It should be noted that the pope is condemning this evil mentality and also he is condemning the evil that is abortion.


    The Pope is receiving an unexpected backlash for comments he made earlier in the year, he is trying to back pedal by clouding the issue and making his earlier statements seem ambiguous or out of context. I find his statement political and dishonest.