Author Topic: Do traditionalist bishops ever issue Declarations of Nullity? (Read 34413 times)

Yeti · « **Reply #10 on:** June 28, 2020, 02:47:24 PM »

Fr. Vaillancourt has been in terrible health for years, and it is commonly known that his ailments have had an effect on his mind. I wouldn't take a lot of what he says all that seriously without corroboration from someone else.

2Vermont · « **Reply #11 on:** June 28, 2020, 05:20:47 PM »

This doesn't sound like a man who would grant an annulment:

http://www.cmri.org/97prog9-1.htm

Ladislaus · « **Reply #12 on:** June 28, 2020, 06:08:45 PM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on June 28, 2020, 05:20:47 PM

This doesn't sound like a man who would grant an annulment:

http://www.cmri.org/97prog9-1.htm

Well, he can't really "grant" anything. As with a couple other sedevacantists I knew, they give their opinion on the matter. There are some clear-cut cases, e.g. where a person baptized Catholic "married" before a justice of the peace, or else "married" someone who had already been married. They limit themselves to these clear-cut cases and would never venture into the realm of the difficult cases which would traditionally have required multi-year investigations and the calling of witnesses. Not only do they not have the time, but they do not have the training nor the authority to be able to adjudicate these cases.

SimpleMan · « **Reply #13 on:** June 28, 2020, 07:49:57 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on June 28, 2020, 06:08:45 PM

Well, he can't really "grant" anything. As with a couple other sedevacantists I knew, they give their opinion on the matter. There are some clear-cut cases, e.g. where a person baptized Catholic "married" before a justice of the peace, or else "married" someone who had already been married. They limit themselves to these clear-cut cases and would never venture into the realm of the difficult cases which would traditionally have required multi-year investigations and the calling of witnesses. Not only do they not have the time, but they do not have the training nor the authority to be able to adjudicate these cases.

So are you saying that the only marriage cases traditionalist bishops render judgment upon, are those that involve lack/defect of form?

That is really more an administrative matter than anything else. It doesn't require any assessment of the marriage other than "did they observe canonical form and/or did they attempt to marry a person whom they were not free to marry?".

Ladislaus · « **Reply #14 on:** June 28, 2020, 08:22:47 PM »

Quote from: SimpleMan on June 28, 2020, 07:49:57 PM

So are you saying that the only marriage cases traditionalist bishops render judgment upon, are those that involve lack/defect of form?

That is really more an administrative matter than anything else. It doesn't require any assessment of the marriage other than "did they observe canonical form and/or did they attempt to marry a person whom they were not free to marry?".

That's what a couple of them have told me. And they basically tell the people inquiring that it is their opinion or judgment. They have no authority or adequate training to actually grant anything akin to a formal annulment.

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