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Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
« on: October 29, 2025, 07:52:33 AM »
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    • Not sure if this is the right group for this (maybe a new group named "testing the spirits" or "modern prophecy"?)

    Does anyone know these people or have experience dealing with them?

    I did a thread search but got nothing back...

    What do you make of these "messages"?

    Here is a bit from the latest "message" 9/2/25 (emphasis theirs NOT mine).

    This HOUR is unique, children.  The centuries have prepared it.  I have announced it to you through the mouth of My Prophets, through the mouth of My Jesus, and of My Precious Pearl.5

    The one who is seated on the throne of Peter is not Mine.6

    Be alert and attentive.  Do not let yourselves be confused or deceived.

    Consider the works.

    Consider what is promoted.

    Consider what is permitted.

    Consider what is punished.

    Consider who is persecuted.

    Wolves in sheep’s clothing that have not only entered My flock to seduce and separate, but who now act as shepherds and guides.
    Children, these false shepherds DO NOT GUIDE YOU TO MY WILL.  THEY DO NOT GUIDE YOU TO HEAVEN.  DO NOT FOLLOW THEM.
    Separate yourselves from them as from something unclean.

    Pray for them, as My Jesus did from the Cross, as Mary Most Holy did at the foot of the Cross, and as I ask of each generous soul to help these souls who are lost for now.

    https://missionofdivinemercy.org/2025-09-02-reconquest-he-is-not-mine/

    Thanks!


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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #1 on: October 29, 2025, 09:12:49 AM »
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    • There are *multiple* past threads on this topic, but I can't find them because CathInfo is such a busy forum.

    I will say, however, that I'm super-suspicious that Our Lady wouldn't mention her servant Bp Zendejas, the other Resistance bishops, the traditional Dominicans in Avrille, or St. Dominic's Chapel in Seguin -- which is quite close to the Mission of Divine Mercy location, geographically speaking. They *must* be quite present in her maternal heart, and yet these "apparitions" seem to totally ignore things that shouldn't be ignored -- like the pre-existing, long-running Traditional Movement for starters.

    It's like the Mission of Divine Mercy is discovering something, so they assume everyone is just discovering it. And they put words into Our Lady's mouth that SHE ALSO could possibly pretend/act like it's all new. But no -- this awareness of the Crisis in the Church, this Traditional Movement, has been going on for 55 years. Our Lady would certainly be of that "perspective" on it.

    Our Lady, possessing the Beatific Vision, is going to be 100% plugged in to God's Reality and God's Truth. Even *we* know the objective reality of the Crisis in the Church, and the 55 year-long movement to keep the Faith and reject the Conciliar Church. Well before the first "apparition" to the Mission of Divine Mercy sister, there have been hundreds of priests and bishops fighting the good fight in the world of Tradition. This is not news or something novel to Our Blessed Mother.

    Which is why I have a hard time believing the messages are authentic/from heaven.

    See, humans are aloof from each other for a hundred reasons: sectarianism, animosity, jealousy, competition, ambition, disagreements, grudges, laziness -- but Our Lady doesn't work that way. Our Lady would be wanting her Children and faithful servants to get together, work together, strengthen each other, socialize with each other, etc.
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #2 on: October 29, 2025, 09:38:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on October 29, 2025, 09:12:49 AM
    There are *multiple* past threads on this topic, but I can't find them because CathInfo is such a busy forum.

    I will say, however, that I'm super-suspicious that Our Lady wouldn't mention her servant Bp Zendejas, the other Resistance bishops, the traditional Dominicans in Avrille, or St. Dominic's Chapel in Seguin -- which is quite close to the Mission of Divine Mercy location, geographically speaking.
    Sorry to bug, but are you saying that they are close to you and you have had no contact with them?

    If I am not mistaken I think H.E. +Williamson gave them some credence (though I understand that was just his opinion). I see in his prudence there, an acknowledgement that God often uses those who are little, unknowing, and despised to be His messengers or relate prophecy. He has even used evil men like Balaam and Caiphas to prophecy.

    So, while your caution is commendable, and your reasoning practical, it doesn't necessarily follow that these messages aren't authentic just because any particular group(s) of trads are or are not mentioned.

    I think Our Lady of La Salette said something like, "only faith will survive." So I suppose She could have mentioned there would be a remnant of faithful bishops/priests, but I am not aware that She did that.

    Then there is the difference between prophecies that purport to reveal events about the future and those that are more akin to warnings about the present (which the latter seems to be more what the DMM "messages" are - current warnings). In some ways they remind me of the messages of Akita - which the N.O. regards as authentic - where it talked about Cardinals and Bishops fighting each other and the subsequent schism(s), but that again was future tense.

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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #3 on: October 29, 2025, 10:08:29 AM »
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    • They're devoted to "Divine Mercy", Sister Fraudstina, and JP2..I wouldn't put any weight in what they say. A couple things that seemed strange to me:


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    May My blessing descend as a dew of consolation and fortitude and light for those who love Me. 

    May it descend as a call to repentance for those who have forgotten Me. 

    And may it descend as thunder upon those who hate Me, as a warning and reminder that I AM GOD. THERE IS NO OTHER.
     
    Why would God be wishing or hoping ("may") His blessing descends on "those who love [Him]"? Why would He not just say "My blessing descends", rather than "May My? 
    Why would He wish or hope His blessing to descend upon those who hate Him?

    And the signoff:


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    YAHWEH, 

    LORD GOD OF HOSTS, 

    GOD OF THE PROPHETS AND PATRIARCHS, 

    SOVEREIGN GOD OVER ALL TIMES AND NATIONS, 

    HAS SPOKEN.

    AMEN

    Does anyone know of a single instance of God calling Himself "Yahweh" in a vision or message to a Catholic? 
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #4 on: October 29, 2025, 10:27:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on October 29, 2025, 10:08:29 AM
    They're devoted to "Divine Mercy", Sister Fraudstina, and JP2..I wouldn't put any weight in what they say. A couple things that seemed strange to me:
    Agreed. But, this in itself would not discount the messages, it would only make them look naive.

    Quote from: WorldsAway on October 29, 2025, 10:08:29 AM
    Does anyone know of a single instance of God calling Himself "Yahweh" in a vision or message to a Catholic?
    Now, this is a good catch! Die juden tun das - NOT Catholics!

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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #5 on: October 29, 2025, 11:47:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on October 29, 2025, 09:38:17 AM
    Then there is the difference between prophecies that purport to reveal events about the future and those that are more akin to warnings about the present (which the latter seems to be more what the DMM "messages" are - current warnings). In some ways they remind me of the messages of Akita - which the N.O. regards as authentic - where it talked about Cardinals and Bishops fighting each other and the subsequent schism(s), but that again was future tense.

    Thanks Matthew!

    It's not just that they are ignoring all the good "faithful servants of Mary" who have been laboring in the Fight for DECADES -- it's also the fact that these messages reek of "johnny come lately" to the Crisis in the Church. Again, Our Lady wouldn't be as excited or fascinated by discovery of the Crisis in the Church as, say, a small group of N.O. religious that just made the discovery ;)

    There's just nothing groundbreaking in these "messages". Like the contents of Taylor Marshall's podcast(s), it's all OLD NEWS for O.G. Trads, who number in the 10s of thousands, and who have been Trad for decades.

    Could Our Lady talk and sound like a newcomer to Tradition? I seriously doubt it. Come on!

    Our Lady doesn't just go back to +Lefebvre, +De Castro Mayer, +Williamson, Fr. Hesse, Tom Nelson, and other pioneers of the Trad movement -- she is even familiar with the Council of Trent, and all of Church History!
    Imagine the big picture understanding that Our Lady must have of the Crisis.
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #6 on: October 29, 2025, 11:51:57 AM »
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    • Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on October 29, 2025, 09:38:17 AM
    Sorry to bug, but are you saying that they are close to you and you have had no contact with them?


    I've spent enough time on CathInfo today; we really need to dig up those old threads. I explained it all there; I can't afford to repeat myself for an hour or two. I need to work on getting a job (I've been unemployed for over 3 months).
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #7 on: October 29, 2025, 12:01:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on October 29, 2025, 11:47:16 AM
    Could Our Lady talk and sound like a newcomer to Tradition? I seriously doubt it. Come on!

    Our Lady doesn't just go back to +Lefebvre, +De Castro Mayer, +Williamson, Fr. Hesse, Tom Nelson, and other pioneers of the Trad movement -- she is even familiar with the Council of Trent, and all of Church History!
    Imagine the big picture understanding that Our Lady must have of the Crisis.
    So this is kind of a false dichotomy here, where you are falsely equating that because something is NOT mentioned it invalidates the veracity of the messenger. "Either validate the traditional movement or it is completely false!"

    But prophecy doesn't always work that way. God may only allow certain things to be said and in the cases of alleged visions of Our Lady, She would without doubt willingly comply without the least need or impulse to tell us all "the juicy dets" that "She would like" (as if She could in anyway NOT understand what God wills or disagree with Him in how/what she would be allowed to reveal).

    Look at Fatima for example. Our Lady never warned about an evil council (of course most trads think it was in the 3rd secret), but we simply do not know for sure. We think the council is evil nonetheless and we also accept the messages of Fatima as authentic. If God wanted us to know more He doesn't need His Mother to tell us, he could just as easily open someone's eyes to the horror show in Rome, but that would not invalidate all apparitions, visions, or locutions where Our Lady doesn't mention those things (at least not as a litmas test for their veracity).

    Quote from: Matthew on October 29, 2025, 11:51:57 AM
    I've spent enough time on CathInfo today; we really need to dig up those old threads. I explained it all there; I can't afford to repeat myself for an hour or two. I need to work on getting a job (I've been unemployed for over 3 months).
    Of course, I do apologize for using up your time, thank you and I pray you find good work!

    Thanks for the threads too!
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #8 on: October 29, 2025, 01:29:01 PM »
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    • Ok, so yeah - to me these definitely have more of a "Bayside Prophecies" feel.

    But then if this is all happening in her head without audible words not much to go on other than the content. 

    So, perhaps and over active imagination, or something else...

    On a related note, is anyone aware of any who claim to be traditionalist seers other than Palamar de Troya who claim/claimed to receive messages from heaven about the crisis?

    Thanks for the advice.
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #9 on: October 29, 2025, 01:46:46 PM »
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    • This is old newsprint, yellowed and crumbling. File it under Dawn Marie and Bayside. 
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #10 on: October 29, 2025, 01:50:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on October 29, 2025, 01:46:46 PM
    This is old newsprint, yellowed and crumbling. File it under Dawn Marie and Bayside.
    IDK about that. The OP quote is from like 6 weeks ago. These people have definitely suffered, and have undergone "excommunication" from the Novus Ordo (which is not nothing). Perhaps the messages are not authentic, but the substance of them doesn't by necessity become worthless trash either. 
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #11 on: October 29, 2025, 01:54:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on October 29, 2025, 01:50:20 PM
    IDK about that. The OP quote is from like 6 weeks ago. These people have definitely suffered, and have undergone "excommunication" from the Novus Ordo (which is not nothing). Perhaps the messages are not authentic, but the substance of them doesn't by necessity become worthless trash either.
    So? I didn’t call them personally worthless trash. I said to file it. Trash goes in the bin. Filing old stuff means it possibly has later use. 
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #12 on: October 29, 2025, 02:02:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on October 29, 2025, 09:12:49 AM
    I will say, however, that I'm super-suspicious that Our Lady wouldn't mention her servant Bp Zendejas, the other Resistance bishops ...

    ... because he the "visionary" never heard of them?
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #13 on: October 29, 2025, 02:09:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 29, 2025, 02:02:46 PM
    ... because he the "visionary" never heard of them?
    If the visionary mentioned them having never heard of them, I’d take her message more seriously!  
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    Re: Divine Mercy Mission Texas "Messages"?
    « Reply #14 on: October 29, 2025, 02:13:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on October 29, 2025, 01:54:00 PM
    So? I didn’t call them personally worthless trash. I said to file it. Trash goes in the bin. Filing old stuff means it possibly has later use.
    Ok, thanks, I misunderstood you.
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