Got to wonder, precisely what canon law was violated here?
Here's the situation:
Seminarian prepares to be called for ordination by Bishop A.
Bishop A refuses to ordain him.
Bishop B is willing to ordain him instead.
The only problem I see here, is that Bishop B is basically getting a priest without having had to pay the costs of educating him all those years, so as a matter of justice, Bishop B might have to write Bishop A a check. Aside from that, it is hard to see a problem here.
To stretch the scenario a bit further, let's say that a seminarian gets pretty much all the way through his education and training. His bishop refuses to ordain him and basically kicks him out. The now-ex-seminarian returns to secular life. Then, at some later date, he finds a bishop who is happy to have him. That bishop ordains him. It's hard to see how the refusing bishop would have been done any more of an injustice than the seminarian was done by having ordination refused in the first place.
I really don't think any kind of canon law was broken but rather the Bishop's ego was violated and a crackdown was in order.
Can you imagine if +Viganno was the ordaining bishop, it would be +ABL all over again.
Notice how they evoked the emergency powers to counter the cannons.
The issue is that one bishop is ordaining priests to operate in another bishop’s diocese against his will (regardless of who’s diocese he’s incardinated into).The way I was reading it ("reading into it" would probably be more like it), it looked like the priest would be subject to the ordaining bishop, would be incardinated to him, and would serve in his diocese instead of the one in which he was rejected.
There is I think the matter of this curious community under the prior Alcuin Reed who has got himself ordained a priest in dubious circuмstances The history of this man is well worth investigating. All of it rather strange. Where does his self-title of 'Dom' come from.
I was incorrect in the spelling of his name. It is Alcuin Reid. ApologiesThere’s oodles on him on the www. He is Dom because he is prior of a Benedictine monastery.
That's strange, years ago my brother talked to someone in the local diocese about becoming a priest, and he was told the church doesn't pay any tuition.
The only problem I see here, is that Bishop B is basically getting a priest without having had to pay the costs of educating him all those years, so as a matter of justice, Bishop B might have to write Bishop A a check. Aside from that, it is hard to see a problem here.
That's strange, years ago my brother talked to someone in the local diocese about becoming a priest, and he was told the church doesn't pay any tuition.It would depend on which diocese he belongs to, on the aspirant, on his or his family’s ability to pay, on whether or not he is called to join a religious community or a diocese.
That's strange, years ago my brother talked to someone in the local diocese about becoming a priest, and he was told the church doesn't pay any tuition.
NADIR Yes he is the self styled prior of his self-founded monastery and was not then in priest's orders. How this has any connection to the Benedictine Rule I fail to see. This community is said to be Englsh speaking but I do not know that this runs to the liturgy This whole history arose when Archbishop Pell begged him to accept laicisation from the diaconate. This was because of suspected sɛҳuąƖ misbehaviour when he was a deacon working in the Melbourne Diocese in the 1980's and 1990's. He was refused ordination to the priesthood several times until this strange event in France. His existence has been peripatetic including time at Farnborough Abbey where be gave himself the title 'Dom'. Much else about him is unusual to say the least. I learn he was also styled as 'Dr Scott'This community is a diocesan association of the faithful. Every community starts out when one person gets together a group of like minds and spirits. How do you think new communities arise? They are not self founded nor does God come down from heaven to rubberstamp them.
Holy orders are not valid in dioceses. You know, it is new order.(https://i.imgur.com/KsQf0pZ.png)