Let it be known that I am NOT a fan of the Diamond Brothers. I do not agree with them on a few very important things, but hear me out.

Someone at my church had ordered some of their stuff. Enclosed was a slip of paper that had a website pertaining to natural food/health stuff. He went to the link, and there was a huge advertisement for "male enhancement" and a video displayed, with a man that was using a lot of profanity, and advocated infidelity and extramarital affairs.

When he tried to call the MHFM, "Sister Ann" answered the phone, and he asked her why this was in there. She replied that she had enclosed that piece of paper, and that the Diamond Brothers didn't know she was doing it. When he asked to speak with them, he got "They're not available."

He's tried to call back, and there's no answer (probably due to the fact that they have caller ID).

This "Sister Ann" was "booted out" of her order because she was "traditional Catholic" or so she claims.

As much as I don't agree with the Diamond Brothers, I HIGHLY DOUBT they would want some disinfo agent answering their phones, unbeknownst to them, handing out a slip of paper containing a website that links to sɛҳuąƖ deviance with their literature.

I tried calling there myself, and I got the same thing, "They're not available." She wouldn't take my information, she told me to email them if I wanted to talk to them. I asked her if they read the email themselves personally or does it go through a third party, and she only said, "They handle the email." Which did NOT answer my question directly. Disinfo agents have a sly way of making you think they're answering you, but they lie. Lies, lies, lies.

If anyone knows how to contact the Diamond Brothers directly, please send me a personal message, and perhaps you can relay this message to them, so that they can keep an eye on her, and maybe.... oh, I dunno, CALL HER OUT ON THE CARPET AND GET RID OF HER!

And in all charity, even though I don't agree with them completely, I do think that SOME of their stuff is invaluable and doesn't deserve someone like HER sending garbage out to the people that are GENUINELY looking for the truth.

Please help. Thank you.

Thank you so much for that. I appreciate you passing the word along to them.

Well I went to Mass this morning, and I saw a copy of my post, and the Brothers were asking if he was the one who wrote it. In case they're reading this, no, the person who showed me the email didn't write that post. I did. If you would like to talk to me personally, send me a message through the messenger here.

I didn't distort the facts. I relayed them as they were given to me. "Sister Anne" (with an e, evidently) would not take my information, only said that I should write them an email if I wanted to talk to them, and to ensure that they got the message, I posted it here.

I am not out to defame anyone. I cannot stand when people attempt to discredit -reliable- information. Sending out slips of paper endorsing a website advocating "male enhancement" and "extramarital affairs" along with Traditional Catholic information, is a contradiction, and my suggestion would be either to inform "Sister Anne" that sending such things out is not conducive to getting your message across, or get a new receptionist, because she's not doing you any favors.

Also, to the Diamond Brothers. I think it is something else that you're saying such derogatory things about the saintly priest at the Church I attend. I am blessed to know him. He doesn't have a vindictive bone in his body. He doesn't calumniate or slander, or libel -anyone- and I think you're very mistaken telling people not to attend the Mass where he says it. He sticks to what the Church teaches, and in these confusing times, there is disagreement on certain issues, but -nothing- that Father has said is against Church teaching. He is a valid priest, and I think it's just wrong that you would attempt to keep people from the sacraments simply because you may have a disagreement with him.

Also, he does sometimes more than 50 sick calls a week. His knees don't work very well, to the point he cannot kneel or genuflect anymore. He's needed knee surgery for years, and the reason he hasn't gotten it is because of his duty to the parishioners. He makes sure that he is at my Church on Friday, flying all the way from New Hampshire to have Mass on Sunday. He's been doing this for years. His amazing dedication to the people is unsurpassed by anyone I've ever met. He is a saintly man.

I am curious as to why you would tell people not to attend his Mass.

Neither Mr. W, nor Mr. P wrote the post above. It was me: a concerned person that happens to be pretty well versed in terms of where to find stuff on the internet, how to get a hold of people if need be, is a Traditional Roman Catholic, and despite your disregard for Father B's reputation, I am charitably concerned about -yours-.

With so many enemies in the Church, why would two people as intelligent as you two, have -one person- answering your phones? Disinformation artists specialize in getting into organizations by stealth, and yours is not immune.

One more thing: She -claims- that she "didn't know" that male enhancement stuff was on that website. That is an out and out lie. She -suggested- that Mr. P take that stuff! Sorry, that excuse does not fly. After her suggestion, she didn't answer the phone calls from Mr. P anymore. Something is not right.

I would strongly suggest you please call Mr. P and get to the bottom of this. I've known him for years, and I've never known him to be a liar.

God bless you.

Here's a link about who the Dimond Brothers are:
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/dialogs/church/dimondbros.htm

I don't believe in addressing people who attack and sow dissent in the Church, especially if they appear to be coming from an external direction.

Is it for me to tear apart a community because of a dispute over some obscure doctrine or directive known only to a few scholars? Or is for me to pray for understanding and wait upon the Lord's answer, trusting in Jesus' own words and in the community of saints to bring enlightenment when it is due?

There is nothing in the Bible or the Catechism that says Peter bars the gate of Heaven to those who did not study each word in the vast Vatican library, or to those who did not care whether a Pope in one year contradicts a Pope in another.

I respect the Pope who is there today regardless of his predecessors and I live as best I can by following the little path that is set before my own feet, not worrying about the different path the Lord may have set before a theological scholar's feet.

It is not the duty of laypersons to study every single Pope and council in the 2,000 years of the Church's existence. The extent of our responsibility in areas like this is to be knowledgeable to a certain extent in apologetics in order to defend the Faith against impious men, and correct Protestants who are in error.

Even just a century ago, many laypersons never learned any catechesis aside from what was required for First Holy Communion and Confirmation. Go back even farther, and laypersons most likely did not even read the Holy Bible [reading the Bible was not forbidden though, as least as far as I know]. Its only at the Protestant Reformation [the vile progenitor of sedevacantism - at least in its more perverted form, such as that espoused by CM, etc] that you see this deliberate perversion of the roles of layperson and priest (i.e., laypersons taking it upon themselves to play the role of theologian, canon lawyer, etc - reading Denzinger does not make you a theologian). Ironically, the Novus Ordo-ites do the same thing. Novus Ordo religion and sedevacantism are just two sides of the same coin.  

It is not the duty of laypersons to study every single Pope and council in the 2,000 years of the Church's existence. The extent of our responsibility in areas like this is to be knowledgeable to a certain extent in apologetics in order to defend the Faith against impious men, and correct Protestants who are in error.

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Vladimir, I hope you become a priest someday, and then a bishop, and then a cardinal, and then the Pope!

(Make sure you go through all of the above steps in order, though! Not like one of our more "august" posters on this forum.)

I should add that each one of us will be held responsible for knowing as much as we can, to the best of our ability. We have no excuse for gross ignorance of the tenets of Our Faith.

Everyone on this forum has been blessed with a high level of literacy, some formal education, and access to books and the Internet. We will be held accountable if we have led others astray or if we have not defended the Faith when we could. Our task is not a simple one, but we have been given the tools to get the job done. Each and every one of us will be held accountable for learning as much about the Catholic Faith as is possible and for putting it into practice, to the best of our ability.

There is a balance between the learning and the practicing, however. If I spend six hours every day studying papal encyclicals and arguing on trad websites, and as a consequence neglect my prayer life, reception of the Sacraments, and my acts of charity and mercy, I am not achieving the proper balance. I am a Pharisee.

St. Catherine of Siena once remarked that there are more Pharisees in the Church than there were in the Temple in the days of Jesus.

Sermon over!  :soapbox:

Which is more important - a more detalied knowledge of the faith or charity.

I have a N.O. friend who is ignorant about some things concerning the faith. For instance, he didn't know how to gain a plenary indulgence for the poor souls, and when I told him, he didn't seem too concerned to gain any (even though, he he could have easily gained an indulgence every day because he went to daily Mass). A year later, when I tested him to see if he remembered the requirements for an indulgence, he couldn't answer (so he has wasted all these years worth of daily Mass by not gaining any indulgences).

This friend has a lot of misconceptions about the faith - for instance, he believes in zombies - that God brings these zombies back to life so they can get a second chance to escape hell. He goes to healing Masses - even though I gave him a whole lecture about what was wrong with them.

Well, anyway, I could go on and on about his ignorance in many things of catholicism. I gave him the "My Catholic Faith" book to read years ago but he still has not read it to learn more about the faith, especially so as not be led astray by Protestant errors that he sometimes falls into.

Although, he has no desire to get a deeper knowledge of the faith, he does have a very strong devotion to the Blessed Sacrament (more so than I have seen in any trad). He visits Jesus every day for 4-5 hours a visit. He goes to daily Mass, most of what comes out of his mouth is praising God, and he gives most of his earnings to the Church. Basically, his whole life is centered around God.

So, does God overlook his lack of desire to learn more about the faith because his whole life is centered on love of God - visiting Jesus, talking and thinking about God, etc..? Is he a better Christian than us because of his charity that far exceeds ours?

Tea party?

I do not agree, nor do I associate in ANY way with the Dimond Brothers!

I was trying to stop a disinfo agent in their ranks from polluting some of their GOOD information!

I AM NOT a sedevacantist, and I resent your statement.

I don't ignore anyone on this forum, but you're coming perilously close to being ignored.