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Offline Santo Subito

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Discussion of Society Rome on Internet Radio Tonight!
« on: April 16, 2012, 02:25:47 PM »
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  • Saw this over at CAF:

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    Colleen Hammond is hosting at 8pm EST.


    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/up-close/2012/04/17/the-sspx-and-rome

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    The SSPX sent their letter of clarification to Rome last week. Will we see an agreement this week? Join us as we discuss what has happened, what effect it can have on the Church, and what we can expect. Call in with your thoughtful questions! Our guests include Louie Verrecchio, John Vennari, Dr John R.T. Lamont...  


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    « Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 02:28:30 PM »
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  • I would listen, but I'd need my tums first  :smirk:


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    « Reply #2 on: April 16, 2012, 03:59:15 PM »
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  • Perhaps all the SSPX priests think patience is a virtue and we all can wait to find out what is going to happen.

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    « Reply #3 on: April 16, 2012, 04:08:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: s2srea
    I would listen, but I'd need my tums first  :smirk:


    John Vennari is against reconciliation.

    Can't remember for certain, but I think Dr. LaMont wrote explaining why Society's view is incompatible with VCII. And Colleen is a Trad. So definitely should not be a Novus love fest!

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    « Reply #4 on: April 16, 2012, 04:29:26 PM »
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  • I believe Bishop Fellay got his answer in Albano. The other three Bishops and vast majority of District Superiors oppose a sell out. The vast majority of faithful also


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    « Reply #5 on: April 16, 2012, 04:32:46 PM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
    I believe Bishop Fellay got his answer in Albano. The other three Bishops and vast majority of District Superiors oppose a sell out. The vast majority of faithful also


    What are you sourcing for this JG?

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    « Reply #6 on: April 16, 2012, 07:18:17 PM »
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  • This radio show sounds very pro-agreement.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 08:12:09 PM »
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    This radio show sounds very pro-agreement.


    Yes, it's very pro-Benedict.


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    « Reply #8 on: April 16, 2012, 09:05:11 PM »
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  • I liked the quip regarding ambiguous conciliar docuмents: "they should ask Benedict to ""define...using Thomistic language"""
    Yea, THAT simply ain't happening!

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    « Reply #9 on: April 16, 2012, 09:09:35 PM »
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  • Quote from: ultrarigorist
    I liked the quip regarding ambiguous conciliar docuмents: "they should ask Benedict to ""define...using Thomistic language"""
    Yea, THAT simply ain't happening!


    Right. When in the history of the Church have we had to distinguish interpreting conciliar docuмents 'using Tomistic language'? If that ain't a sign of something gone wrong, what the heck is?!

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    « Reply #10 on: April 16, 2012, 09:24:32 PM »
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  • Hi everyone it's James. I called in and asked a question, I was nervous because I've never been on the radio before :scared2: lol

    My question was about the FSSP and the Institute of Christ the King and other approved religious orders in the church and how they deal with the teachings of the Second Vatican Council .

    I'll reiterate my question here. How do these groups interpret religious liberty and ecuмenism and other teachings of the Second Vatican council that the SSPX and other Tradition Catholics disagrees with?  Do they compromise? Are their positions unclear? Are they  under some kind of a gag order like the gentleman said on the radio show? Just asking for opinions

    God bless
    James




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    « Reply #11 on: April 16, 2012, 09:31:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: jhfromsf68
    Hi everyone it's James. I called in and asked a question, I was nervous because I've never been on the radio before :scared2: lol

    My question was about the FSSP and the Institute of Christ the King and other approved religious orders in the church and how they deal with the teachings of the Second Vatican Council .

    I'll reiterate my question here. How do these groups interpret religious liberty and ecuмenism and other teachings of the Second Vatican council that the SSPX and other Tradition Catholics disagrees with?  Do they compromise? Are their positions unclear? Are they  under some kind of a gag order like the gentleman said on the radio show? Just asking for opinions

    God bless
    James




    Short answer: don't know in each individual case, but certainly officially they're not allowed to criticize those teachings.  Yes, they are compromised.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 16, 2012, 10:52:48 PM »
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  • Quote from: jhfromsf68
    Hi everyone it's James. I called in and asked a question, I was nervous because I've never been on the radio before :scared2: lol

    My question was about the FSSP and the Institute of Christ the King and other approved religious orders in the church and how they deal with the teachings of the Second Vatican Council .

    I'll reiterate my question here. How do these groups interpret religious liberty and ecuмenism and other teachings of the Second Vatican council that the SSPX and other Tradition Catholics disagrees with?  Do they compromise? Are their positions unclear? Are they  under some kind of a gag order like the gentleman said on the radio show? Just asking for opinions

    God bless
    James




    While I don't know what is said behind closed doors, Vatican II was only once referred to in a homily at St. Francis de Sales Oratory as "the last council" whereas in my very first time assisting at a Traditional Latin Mass, the priest made mention in the homily of "the Holy Council of Trent".  I was mesmerized because I had spent years in a NO church wondering why the homily sounded like it could have been written by a second stringer for the democratic party.

    I'm nervous about how this is all going to play out.  It's extremely unlikely that the SSPX, with it's four very fine bishops would be enough to have a positive effect on the spiritual rancidness of the post-VCII Conciliar Church.   Aren't there over 1400 bishops in the world???  

    Let the Conciliar Church continue to decay then move in and clean up the mess.  The Catholic Church must remain true to it's Founder and choose, if necessary, to carry its cross and not give in for the sake of a few positive "atta boys" from people who will go back to hating you in a few more days.  

    I, for one, am rather unsettled at what is in front of us.