Well done, Ladislaus. I like especially the analogy with gas prices. I told people the same thing years ago. It’s simple psychology: Raise prices to a high level, taper them down over time to a still-high (but apparent "low") price as compared with previous prices, but trumpet, “See! Look how prices are falling!” Nevermind that prices are 230% above what they were before.

It is interesting John 23 named himself after the last anti-Pope and he didn't know what he was doing?  He even moved a statue of the anti-Pope to a prominent place.  This seems to coincide with your theory.  Also all the things Paul 6 did, abolishing he oath against modernism and renouncing the tiara as the tip of the iceburg.

There are many data points that lead me to believe that this is the case.

It's well know that the Masons have been trying to infiltrate the Church for years; they have published their plans along those lines.

Bella Dodd admitted that the Communists had been systematically infiltrating the Church.

John XXIII's fraternization with Communists are legendary, and there are credible allegations that he joined the Masons.  In one of his early encyclicals he wrote of a "mysterious force" rising in the world, with mysterious force being the original name for Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.  One of the first things he did was to start brokering deals with the Communists so that they would let Orthodox observers attend V2.  Masonic and Communist publications hailed his election.

Paul VI appears to be descended from rabbis on his father's side.  He walked around wearing the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic ephod of Caiphas.  There are credible allegations that he ratted out clandestine bishops and priests behind the Iron Curtain to the Communists.  That's in addition to the other stuff you mentioned.

John Paul II was alleged to be a peace priest, a Communist collaborator.  While other Polish bishops were kept under tight control or even under house arrest, he travelled the world giving lectures of phenomenology.  His mother was of Jєωιѕн descent, and his best friends growing up were Jews.  Jerzy Kluger, a Jew, was granted the first private audience by John Paul II after his election.  John Paul II has some very public meetings with Bnai Brith.

And all of these guys have been photographed giving and receiving Masonic-looking handshakes.

There's just too much here NOT to suspect them of being infiltrators.

Our Lady of Good Success warned of the secret sect infiltrating the Church, and Padre Pio was convinced that the Masons had infiltrated high places in the Church.

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It is interesting John 23 named himself after the last anti-Pope and he didn't know what he was doing?  He even moved a statue of the anti-Pope to a prominent place.  This seems to coincide with your theory.  Also all the things Paul 6 did, abolishing he oath against modernism and renouncing the tiara as the tip of the iceburg.

There are many data points that lead me to believe that this is the case.

It's well know that the Masons have been trying to infiltrate the Church for years; they have published their plans along those lines.

Bella Dodd admitted that the Communists had been systematically infiltrating the Church.

John XXIII's fraternization with Communists are legendary, and there are credible allegations that he joined the Masons.  In one of his early encyclicals he wrote of a "mysterious force" rising in the world, with mysterious force being the original name for Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.  One of the first things he did was to start brokering deals with the Communists so that they would let Orthodox observers attend V2.  Masonic and Communist publications hailed his election.

Paul VI appears to be descended from rabbis on his father's side.  He walked around wearing the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic ephod of Caiphas.  There are credible allegations that he ratted out clandestine bishops and priests behind the Iron Curtain to the Communists.  That's in addition to the other stuff you mentioned.

John Paul II was alleged to be a peace priest, a Communist collaborator.  While other Polish bishops were kept under tight control or even under house arrest, he travelled the world giving lectures of phenomenology.  His mother was of Jєωιѕн descent, and his best friends growing up were Jews.  Jerzy Kluger, a Jew, was granted the first private audience by John Paul II after his election.  John Paul II has some very public meetings with Bnai Brith.

And all of these guys have been photographed giving and receiving Masonic-looking handshakes.

There's just too much here NOT to suspect them of being infiltrators.

Our Lady of Good Success warned of the secret sect infiltrating the Church, and Padre Pio was convinced that the Masons had infiltrated high places in the Church.

Truth really is stranger than fiction.  I don't disagree with anything above.  I find it hard to believe that they were not in willful collaboration with the devil.  There is so much we will know at our particular and after the General Judgement, but we already have some good suspicions.  

When the puppet-masters get their useful idiot masons in place they dictate everything that is said and done by those in their positions and successfully manipulate the masses.  This is done in the secular world and in the Church.  

Oh, yeah, and throw in the whole fake / double Sister Lucy thing.  That too is downright diabolical and clearly shows a sinister hidden hand at work in the Vatican.

I don't like throwing stuff like this out there, but we have to be wise as serpents in this day and age.  Otherwise we will be fooled and suckered in.  I think that we sometimes, in the interests of charity, allow people like this too much indulgence, and that's a large part of how they get away with it.  Nah, it can't be true, we say; which in turn gives them cover.

Whether they are direct agents or whether they were just being controlled by someone else is obviously hard to say, but the fact that other forces are at work is just plain as day.

Just look at V2.  It has Masonic fingerprints ALL OVER IT, right down to the Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite.  Liberte (religious liberty), egalite (collegiality, priesthood of the faithful), fraternite (ecuмenism).

I just have to say that it warms the cockles of my heart that you two are agreeing so much!  LOL

Just look at V2.  It has Masonic fingerprints ALL OVER IT, right down to the Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite.  Liberte (religious liberty), egalite (collegiality, priesthood of the faithful), fraternite (ecuмenism).

This is ALL it is about. A most perfidious infiltration in the Church hierarchy. The masonic forces have been in play all along, more evidently since the French Revolution. Perhaps before. They have had their noses poked in every communist anti-Christ revolution of the XX century. They are responsible for all the spiritual, social, and moral degradation of humankind in modern times. No wonder why if one of their main premises is: MAN IS GOD. Their approach is anti-divine, naturalistic, and humanist to the point of being demonic. Throughout 2000 years the Church actively condemned these secret societies until Vatican II when everything mysteriously changed