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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Geremia on February 07, 2015, 12:36:51 PM

Title: Diocesan "Listening Sessions" for Synod?
Post by: Geremia on February 07, 2015, 12:36:51 PM
Is your diocese having a "listening session" with the bishop?

Mine has been. The bishop writes:
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Last weekend I held a listening session…to gather suggestions and advice in response to our Holy Father’s desire to listen to our people on issues related to marriage and family life in preparation for the Ordinary Synod in Rome during October, 2015.
Have you gone to a "listening session"? What did you tell your bishop?

It might be worthwhile to attend one of these if your diocese offers them, not so much as to participate in Francis's democratization of the Church as to bring the truth about marriage to those present.

I'd bring up:
There is no such thing as divorce. All mention of divorce should be scrapped.
In 1968 there were 338 annulments, in 2002 there were 50,000. The annulment process really is "divorce for Catholics."
There needs to be mention of the virtue of chastity (cf. Pope Pius XI's encyclical Casti Connubii, "chaste marriages")!
The Synod needs to explicitly condemn contraception, not just make a passing reference to Humanæ Vitæ
There is nothing good about sodomite unions, as the Relatio (https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2014/10/13/0751/03037.html) currently says.
Title: Diocesan "Listening Sessions" for Synod?
Post by: Quasimodo on February 07, 2015, 12:42:56 PM

It might be hard for us breeders to sit through. I doubt they would be interested in hearing about what the Church teaches.
Title: Diocesan "Listening Sessions" for Synod?
Post by: Geremia on February 07, 2015, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: Quasimodo
It might be hard for us breeders to sit through. I doubt they would be interested in hearing about what the Church teaches.
I spoke about how contraception is evil and how priests need to preach against it from the pulpit because most Catholics don't know it's evil.
Title: Diocesan "Listening Sessions" for Synod?
Post by: Geremia on February 07, 2015, 08:28:18 PM
I just came back from mine, held at a conservative parish in a liberal diocese, and I'd guess about 30% of the circa 90 people present were orthodox: openly anti-contraception, anti-"divorce for Catholics," etc.
Most of the older people there were pro-contraception, pro-"welcoming everyone," anti-"trying to convert people from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity," etc.
This one young girl, who had an annulment, was talking about how easy hers was and how they should be even easier.
Let us weep and pray.

Here's what another diocese (Phoenix) is doing:
http://www.catholicsun.org/2015/02/02/phoenix-diocese-invites-catholics-to-participate-in-vatican-questionnaire-on-the-family/
Title: Diocesan "Listening Sessions" for Synod?
Post by: Geremia on February 07, 2015, 08:29:49 PM
Very little time was given to annulments, but those who did speak talked about how they should be easier, faster, etc. I wish I could've said they should be harder and NEVER EVER granted to people who have children.
Title: Diocesan "Listening Sessions" for Synod?
Post by: Quasimodo on February 07, 2015, 11:21:22 PM
Good job. It is good there are patient articulate people like you to try to have an impact. Who knows, maybe you are now the part of someones conversion.
Title: Diocesan "Listening Sessions" for Synod?
Post by: Geremia on February 08, 2015, 05:22:24 PM
I'm fine with trads' ghetto mentality, but when that's used as an excuse not to speak up when given the opportunity, then it's problematic.