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Dimonds soul damning errors
« on: July 15, 2009, 04:19:35 PM »
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  • I posted this in "Proof of a HERETIC pope" but I think it deserves some breathing room of its own, so here it is again, with a link to the post on my blog:


    The Dimonds have seven soul damning errors that I am aware of  :whistleblower:. If anybody is aware of more, please let me know. Here are the errors of the Dimonds, in brief, with references to the teachings they deny:

    Their heretical belief that one may knowingly receiving sacraments and commune with heretics and schismatics, contrary to the Council of Basel, Session 20, approved by Pope Eugene IV;

    Their heretical belief that canonizations are infallible, contrary to Vatican Council, Session 4, Chapter 4, paragraph 6, decreed by Pope Pius IX (For the Holy Spirit was promised to the successors of Peter not so that they might, by his revelation, make known some new doctrine, but that, by his assistance, they might religiously guard and faithfully expound the revelation or deposit of faith transmitted by the apostles.);

    Their schismatic denial that invincible ignorance is the only excuse from the guilt of "Labouring in ignorance of the true religion (Pope Pius IX, Singulari Quadem, Dec 9, 1845) by which denial they attempt to argue that people in the Vatican II religion can still be Catholic, though they correctly hold that someone invincibly ignorant of the the Catholic Faith, as defined by Pope Eugene IV in Session 8 of the Council of Florence (Athanasian Creed), cannot be saved.

    Their schismatic denial that validly baptized children who are born and raised in heresy become schismatic upon reaching the age of reason, since at that point they are immediately bound by the divine law (including the law to profess the true religion and be subject to the Roman Pontiff), which not even the Church can dispense them from (Pope Pius X, Quam Singulari, Aug 8, 1910).

    Their heretical belief that not all things that are to be believed as Divinely revealed are dogmas, and hence their assertion that Ordinary and Universal Magisterium doctrines are not dogmas, contrary to Vatican Council, Session 3, Chapter 3, paragraph 8; and the letter Tuas Libenter, both teachings of Pope Pius IX.

    Their schismatic belief that popes can be public heretics in their fallible capacity, and still be Catholics and popes, contrary to the Council of Florence, Session 11 (all those who are outside the catholic church, not only pagans but also Jєωs or heretics and schismatics). This is their position on Pius XII for example, who publicly taught NFP and the heresy of baptism of desire, and it is the position they have to adopt with Benedict XV, even if they disagree that he was inculcating the heresy of universal salvation, since he stated about the Blessed Virgin Mary that "she, together with Christ, redeemed the human race", which is a heretical statement.

    Their heretical belief that the limbo of infants is not only not heresy, but a dogma, by twisting Auctorem Fidei #26 into something it doesn't actually say and by making assumptions about the Council of Florence, Session 6 (But the souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone, go down straightaway to hell to be punished, but with unequal pains- which they translate as "punishments of different kinds"), which are contradicted by the Council of Florence, Session 11 (all those who are outside the catholic church, not only pagans but also Jєωs or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire...- unbaptized children are part of the "all those who are outside the catholic church").

    With all of these errors, it is no wonder at all that the Dimonds do not teach the necessity of specific abjuration for converts from heresy and schism.


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    Dimonds soul damning errors
    « Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 08:31:29 AM »
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  • To the Dimonds (in response to their assertion that I lied about one of their positions)

    Ordinary and Universal Magisterium doctrines are dogmas, and you hold this position as well.  I believed you held contrary to this position as a result of reading your article on Geocentrism, but after reviewing it I see that did indeed accidentally misrepresent your words in this matter; I retract my assertion, and I apologize.


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    « Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 08:36:09 AM »
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    Dimonds soul damning errors
    « Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 11:05:14 PM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Martyr
    To the Dimonds (in response to their assertion that I lied about one of their positions)

    Ordinary and Universal Magisterium doctrines are dogmas, and you hold this position as well.  I believed you held contrary to this position as a result of reading your article on Geocentrism, but after reviewing it I see that did indeed accidentally misrepresent your words in this matter; I retract my assertion, and I apologize.


    What article on Geocentrism are you referring to?
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 01:52:48 AM »
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  • Here it is.  I suppose this article will keep you busy for a while.


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    « Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 02:44:09 AM »
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  • Let's get to the heart of the matter b4 I even read this. Do Dimonds believe that the Earth rev around the Sun? Ciao
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 09:24:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Martyr
    Here it is.  I suppose this article will keep you busy for a while.


    Mu understanding of the Galileo case is that  Earth is the center of the Universe in a spititual sense because Jesus has been here. This is not necessarily respective of the physical relatativity between Earth, Sun and Planets. IOW Earth can revolve around the Sun and still be the center of the Universe.

    http://www.firstjesuits.wordpress .com
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #7 on: July 22, 2009, 09:32:23 PM »
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  • Should read

    http://www.firstjesuits.wordpress.com

    There is no mention in the Dimond Geocentrism article of the real reason Galileo was condemned in 1633-- his atomic materialist, Epicurian, Einstonian physical theories.

    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    « Reply #8 on: July 22, 2009, 09:35:14 PM »
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  • To this day there is no English translation of Galileo's Il Saggiatore( The Assayer) available.  :sad:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 10:20:39 PM »
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  • The attempt by the neo-feeneyite Dimonds to compare the Geocentrism/Heliocentrism debate with denial of BoD/BoD debate is unique.

    btw, I phoned MHFM today and could not get a straight answer to the question-- Does Earth rev around The Sun?  
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    « Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 11:06:01 PM »
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  • At what times can you call them?





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    « Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 11:27:04 PM »
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  • Any time you want to be deceived.

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    « Reply #12 on: July 22, 2009, 11:27:57 PM »
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  • You've forgotten their biggest error - their lack of charity.