Author Topic: Dimonds Refute "Radical Schismatic" CM (Read 2127 times)

SJB · « **Reply #1 on:** June 15, 2010, 08:01:01 PM »

The blind leading the blind?

Vladimir · « **Reply #2 on:** June 15, 2010, 09:00:20 PM »

The Diamonds and CM have had a bit of a history of conflict. I'm almost sure that they read CathInfo. They dedicated an article to CM and another one to Caminus on their site (I don't know if its still on or not).

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If Michael and Peter Diamond are reading this, then I appreciate your quick response to the unheard of stupidities of "some radical schismatics". :wink:

Vladimir · « **Reply #3 on:** June 15, 2010, 09:07:48 PM »

This is a rather funny comic strip -- I don't which is more sad: the subject of it, or the fact that one of the rather serious Diamond brothers probably drew it:

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/Articles/dave_l.pdf

Here is more background information:

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/mp3/1_rad_schism_intro.mp3

MyrnaM · « **Reply #4 on:** June 15, 2010, 09:46:09 PM »

Quote from: Vladimir

The Diamonds and CM have had a bit of a history of conflict. I'm almost sure that they read CathInfo.

They no doubt post here too under a moniker

Ladislaus · « **Reply #5 on:** June 16, 2010, 03:59:23 AM »

Quote from: Vladimir

This is a rather funny comic strip -- I don't which is more sad: the subject of it, or the fact that one of the rather serious Diamond brothers probably drew it:

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/Articles/dave_l.pdf

Yeah, this is in fact very sad (said in a spirit of charity).

Ladislaus · « **Reply #6 on:** June 16, 2010, 04:00:24 AM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

Quote from: Vladimir
The Diamonds and CM have had a bit of a history of conflict. I'm almost sure that they read CathInfo.

They no doubt post here too under a moniker

I have not detected anyone who sounds like them posting here.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 16, 2010, 04:49:47 AM »

That cartoon gave me the creeps. They are way too concerned with David Landry. Why do they even care? He has a website that probably gets three hits a day if that. Their website is the most visited trad Catholic website in the country, if not the world.

The whole thing with the good looks comes from David telling their secretary that he was tall and "has presence." I know that from the Retractions section of David's website, where he repented of it.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 17, 2010, 02:39:49 AM »

Bump. This thread deserves more attention because it is just so wacky.

Ladislaus said:

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Yeah, this is in fact very sad (said in a spirit of charity).

Whither this soft spot for the Dimonds, Ladislaus? I think they have surpassed their seventy times seven, don't you? What is sympathetic about people who are on the attack all day, every day, and never have a kind word to say about anyone, EVER? Who are full of nastiness and bile and name-calling?

Their denunciation of all and sundry as "schismatics" is so ridiculous that I'm almost tempted to believe it is performance art or a poker-faced comedy routine of some kind, kind of like with Pope Augustine -- but it probably isn't.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #9 on:** June 17, 2010, 04:44:23 AM »

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Whither this soft spot for the Dimonds, Ladislaus? I think they have surpassed their seventy times seven, don't you?

It's not for me to decide and to count when they have surpassed the number. In any case, I was sad not only for the Dimonds but also for CM/DL. CM is really a tortured soul and I am sad for him despite my (often violent) disagreements with him.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 17, 2010, 07:12:50 PM »

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CM is really a tortured soul and I am sad for him despite my (often violent) disagreements with him.

Your impression of him is that he is tortured? I think he is probably very prideful and doesn't question himself or his motives enough.

But I don't think he is as off-base as all that. I think the Popes from Leo XIII on are definitely weak, Pius X mostly excepted ( although Notre Charge Apostolique is a problem ). It wouldn't surprise me at all if we haven't had a Pope since Pius X. Rampolla was almost elected around that time... It is not as far-fetched as you are trying to make it sound.

The Church was CRAWLING with Freemasons in the early 20th century, and the language of Benedict XV really does sound Freemasonic. Do you think there might be some significance to Ratzinger's choice of the moniker "Benedict XVI"? Even Leo XIII with his talk of "brotherly love" sounds suspicious. This all happened through gradualism -- who knows when it really began?

It's good that CM is pointing some of this out, and opening doors where others fear to tread. The only problem is that he sees heresies where there aren't any.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #11 on:** June 17, 2010, 10:10:47 PM »

Wow! The Dimonds say Trads can go to NO confession as long as the priest was ordained before '68.

I suppose as time passes and the older priests die, the vast majority of Catholics will not be able to confess to a priest at all (in their view).

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/Where_to_Mass.html

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If a person has committed mortal sin and needs to go to Confession, he can go to a Novus Ordo priest who was ordained in the Traditional Rite of Ordination (before 1968) as long as the priest says “I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.” This can be done if a person needs to go to Confession.