Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?  (Read 36764 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline PhilIntrate

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
  • Reputation: +2/-2
  • Gender: Male
Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #90 on: February 07, 2025, 08:45:59 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • In other words, what would be my motivation?

    -- to attack the Dimonds (I don't have any ill will toward them)
    -- to defend every word of their videos (I'm not a cult follower of them either)
    -- to prove that many magic tricks are performed by cooperation with demons?  I already know this.
    -- to prove that EVERY trick in their (4-hour) video is?  Don't feel the need to do that (see the above).

    I've done just enough to expose that there's a bad will and agenda behind this latest attack on the Dimonds, whether out of personal animosity,our on account of Rationalism and lack of faith (not believing in the spiritual / preternatural world), and those two examples I went through (and wasted 10-15 minutes of my time each) suffice for that purpose.

    I saw the guy building the metal structure for levitation (couldn't have happened) and the guy attempting to reproduce the Great Wall of China trick (epic fail due to the conditions I explained).  Both are obvious and transparent fails and could only be accepted as evidence by someone applying confirmation bias and begging the question, for some agenda.

    Now, I can't 100% rule out camera tricks, since you can do almost anything with that and video editing software and AI, but many of these appeared to have been performed in front of live audiences.

    You don't have to attack the Dimonds, just simply admitting that they were wrong to accuse far too many people. Are you willing to do that

    Can you give one, just one example of a trick that you believe is done by the cooperation of demons?  Remember simply saying "I don't know how this trick is done, therefore demons" won't cut it.  Your examples so far of David Copperfield and Special Head are simply examples of you not understanding the method.

    You are still stuck on the "you must not believe in the supernatural".  It's hard to believe you aren't a Dimond cult follower when all you do is regurgitate their failed talking points.

    Be honest, did you watch the Deuterocomical video, specifically the part where he explains the levitations?  It's fine if you didn't because ignorance is preferable to dishonestly, but I would recommend you do.  

    Also, the pure irony of you bringing up confirmation bias is amazing.  The DImonds original video was just 4 hours of confirmation bias.  

    I'm glad that you are willing to admit that camera tricks are a possibility (something that Dimonds refuse to accept for some reason), so why is that unbelievable to you?  Why is having an audience that is in on the trick so unbelievable for you?  It happens all the time.

    Offline PhilIntrate

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 8
    • Reputation: +2/-2
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
    « Reply #91 on: February 07, 2025, 08:47:13 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Children of God are instructed not to converse with demons nor to cast pearls before swine.
    We're not supposed to talk to non-Catholics?  Huh?


    Offline PhilIntrate

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 8
    • Reputation: +2/-2
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
    « Reply #92 on: February 07, 2025, 08:54:41 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0


  • Debunking of the Great Wall of China was also absurd nonsense.  It involved the magician sneaking into the bottom of a cart that was then wheeled around this "wall" to "stand in for" the Great Wall of China, something in the studio that was about 20 feet in length that you could wheel a cart around.  Uhm, the Wall of China is 13,000 miles long and varies between 15 and 32 feet thick, of solid stone.  No way anyone was wheeling any kind of cart around it, nor did he dig a tunnel underneath it, and there were spectators on top of the wall for long distances, with cameras running looking down the length of the wall lest he find some way to climb over it, and then just magically re-appear under the sheet on the other side.

    Offline PhilIntrate

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 8
    • Reputation: +2/-2
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
    « Reply #93 on: February 07, 2025, 08:59:29 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0

  • one guy built a metal apparatus to simulate the street levitation … but there’s clearly no apparatus involved in the actual tricks shown, as they move locations, without any sign of an apparatus 
    What do you mean by "clearly no apparatus involved" when the guy is always wearing baggy clothing and either has a rug or sand beneath him (not to mention, a big stick)?  Are you saying because you can't see it, it isn't there?

    Also when you say "move locations" you mean that he can walk away after the trick is done, right?  He never walks away from the rug and does the trick again somewhere else, conveniently, so this still just means that the apparatus is detachable as proven in the video.

    Offline WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1026
    • Reputation: +809/-773
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
    « Reply #94 on: February 07, 2025, 09:26:14 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • We're not supposed to talk to non-Catholics?  Huh?
    A Catholic talking to a demon is like an innocent person talking to a cop who questions him about a suspected crime or anything innocuous he is doing. The Catholic (like the innocent citizen) has absolutely nothing to gain from talking but everything to lose. 


    Offline PhilIntrate

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 8
    • Reputation: +2/-2
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
    « Reply #95 on: February 07, 2025, 01:55:51 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • A Catholic talking to a demon is like an innocent person talking to a cop who questions him about a suspected crime or anything innocuous he is doing. The Catholic (like the innocent citizen) has absolutely nothing to gain from talking but everything to lose.
    Oh, you're mean talking to demons.  Yeah I agree we shouldn't do that. 

    I was saying he should talk to Deuterocomical (unless you are implying that he is somehow a demon???)