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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #75 on: May 24, 2024, 12:41:35 PM »
Getting back to the thread title, I wasn’t aware magicians are a problem for Catholics or society in general.  
I can’t think of any I’ve seen recently, and those I have seen didn’t need to be cracked down upon.  A six year old girl in my class’s father performed some magic tricks at her class birthday party.  He wasn’t that good but the children loved it when pulled coins out of their ears, did card tricks, produced scarves from his nose…
In the early 1990’s two Indian (East) fellows dressed as magicians boarded the uptown 6 train in NYC, pushing a cart set up as a magic show. They proceeded to entertain us with classic tricks including pulling a real small rabbit out of a top hat!  There was piano music to accompany the show.  It was really quite good, so they made a fair amount when they went through the car with the donation can.  Probably the Transit Police would crack down on them, but none were present. Our show was from 59 & Lex to 125 St.  
I don’t get it!  Are the Dimonds harassed by demonic magicians?  I’ve never been there, but their “monastery” in the woods hardly seems like a place that attracts magicians.  Maybe I’m wrong, but don’t they not have TV’s and strictly limit the use of internet?  

Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #76 on: May 24, 2024, 05:23:49 PM »
‘I honest to God believe I was drugged’: magician David Copperfield’s alleged victims speak out
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/may/15/david-copperfield-allegations

Magician David Copperfield accused of grooming underaged girls, even drugging and raping. He was another one with an island in the Bahamas.

The Bill Cosby of the Top Hat Set. 


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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #77 on: May 24, 2024, 06:03:02 PM »
Getting back to the thread title, I wasn’t aware magicians are a problem for Catholics or society in general.
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I don’t get it!  Are the Dimonds harassed by demonic magicians?  I’ve never been there, but their “monastery” in the woods hardly seems like a place that attracts magicians.  Maybe I’m wrong, but don’t they not have TV’s and strictly limit the use of internet? 

Of course it doesn't have anything to do with them personally being harassed.  If you watch the video, you'll see what it's about, the subtle effect on popular culture these types are having where they're undermining people's belief in Our Lord.  Our Lord's miracles were among the most powerful signs of "credibility" for Our Lord when He came, that which showed everyone that He had the authority of God.  But with these magicians "replicating" nearly every miracle Our Lord performed, it makes it easy for the cynics in the world to scoff at Our Lord's having been the Son of God.  Pfft.  Dynamo, Blane, Copperfield, and Jebreezus (that's what he called himself in blasphemy) did all that and more.  Jesus was just a magician as many of His detractors claimed.

When the Brothers put out videos about Orthodoxy, it's not because they're attacked by the Orthodox or somehow tempted to become Orthodox, or when they put out videos about evolution, it's not as though they're tempted to believe in it ... they put these materials out because there are many out there, millions, and billions of souls who are being deceived by these things, and also having their faith weakened by these so-called "magicians".

Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #78 on: February 06, 2025, 11:21:20 AM »
Most of the video is complete garbage, and the fact that you consider it "good" is a sign of your lack of intellectual capacity, and your lack of any deep supernatural faith.  There's no "magic" to flat earth either, and you have never refuted the flat earth position with any rational argument.  You're nothing but a faithless idiot.
Deuterocomical saw this thread and he said he is willing to have you or anyone who disagrees with his magic video onto his channel to discuss/debate this topic.  Email him at deuterocomical2023@gmail.com if you are willing

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #79 on: February 06, 2025, 12:15:20 PM »
Deuterocomical saw this thread and he said he is willing to have you or anyone who disagrees with his magic video onto his channel to discuss/debate this topic.  Email him at deuterocomical2023@gmail.com if you are willing

Sorry, but I don't have time for it.  Fact is that most of the attacks come from people who don't believe in the preternatural.

I wasted enough time on a couple of the "debunking" videos.  One of them had a guy welding together some apparatus made of steel to simulate the levitation guys ... problem with that being that the levitation guys in the Dimond video clearly have no such apparatus, as they get up, move around, etc.  ... and there would be absolutely no way to hide that.  One of those guys actually gets rid of his stick when someone tried to claim that his stick was involved.  He put his hand on some guy's head and did the same stunt, and at another time he actually let go and had no hands.

Debunking of the Great Wall of China was also absurd nonsense.  It involved the magician sneaking into the bottom of a cart that was then wheeled around this "wall" to "stand in for" the Great Wall of China, something in the studio that was about 20 feet in length that you could wheel a cart around.  Uhm, the Wall of China is 13,000 miles long and varies between 15 and 32 feet thick, of solid stone.  No way anyone was wheeling any kind of cart around it, nor did he dig a tunnel underneath it, and there were spectators on top of the wall for long distances, with cameras running looking down the length of the wall lest he find some way to climb over it, and then just magically re-appear under the sheet on the other side.

So the debunking videos were so ludicrous that they show nothing but bad faith, from individals who refuse to believe in the supernatural world.  Whether or not every single element depicted in the Dimond video is true or not we can't be certain about, but very many of them, and likely most of them, do involve preternatural activity.  Only someone who does not believe in the spiritual world can pretend otherwise, as they desperately try to rationalize away, and it's not worth my time to debate such a clown.  Have him contact the Dimond Brothers for a debate, but they probably don't want to waste their time on some infidel anyway.