Ok, that's fair. We do know the preternatural exists, demons and devils and the like. Obviously, those who commune with them, or attempt to do so, are putting their Souls in the gravest peril. Some of those claims could be exaggerated or false, while others could be accurate. My main issue with the Dimonds are their theological errors, like when they claim the entire Catholic Hierarchy could conceivably defect, or other such manifest absurdities, not this particular issue. But, another thread for that.