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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2024, 06:16:03 AM »
I went through the two main alleged “debunking” videos and pointed out how they don’t come close to explaining the actual tricks shown by the Dimonds.

1) one guy built a metal apparatus to simulate the street levitation … but there’s clearly no apparatus involved in the actual tricks shown, as they move locations, without any sign of an apparatus … and the one guy used someone’s head at one point

2) wall of China debunk showed the magician going inside the stairs and then being wheeled around the other side of a shipping container.  But you can clearly see that there’s no compartment beneath the stairs or the platform in Copperfield’s version and no way to wheel him around or through the wall of China ( which is not a relatively small shipping container)

Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2024, 10:07:11 PM »
This guy...(he's a V2 supporter but I did laugh at a couple of his parody videos.)

https://www.youtube.com/@Deuterocomical/videos

...is supposed to debunk the Dimonds magicians videos (he talks about it in this comment section...)

...under the "You're a fool" comment) and has stated he challenged the Dimonds to a debate on the matter and they have not accepted (or rejected) apparently his e-mail challenge was ignored. 

I'm interested in what he can supposedly debunk but I think Dimonds did a very solid video on these and don't really think they can be debunked on (most or all of) this.  Won't be surprised if he just sets up and attacks strawmen.  I do think one or two of the tricks covered could be explainable by natural means but I have no doubt many of these people are actually sorcerors that made a deal with the devil.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2024, 06:21:23 AM »
I'm interested in what he can supposedly debunk but I think Dimonds did a very solid video on these and don't really think they can be debunked on (most or all of) this.  Won't be surprised if he just sets up and attacks strawmen.  I do think one or two of the tricks covered could be explainable by natural means but I have no doubt many of these people are actually sorcerors that made a deal with the devil.

That was a humorous parody video.  I went through the alleged debunking threads on Twitter and found the two examples they gave to be ludicrious, not even coming close to explaining what we saw.  Barring some extreme camera trickery and audiences who were "in on" it, at least 90% of these can't be explained other than through diabolical agency.  On top of that, many (if not most) of the magicians featured in the Dimond video boasted of working with "entities", and some explicitly calling them demons.

Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2024, 10:07:50 PM »
That was a humorous parody video.  I went through the alleged debunking threads on Twitter and found the two examples they gave to be ludicrious, not even coming close to explaining what we saw.  Barring some extreme camera trickery and audiences who were "in on" it, at least 90% of these can't be explained other than through diabolical agency.  On top of that, many (if not most) of the magicians featured in the Dimond video boasted of working with "entities", and some explicitly calling them demons.

Yeah, there will always be the scoffers who just don't want to believe and they say that the sorcerors were "kidding" when they say stuff like working with demons and such.  Basically they will make every excuse to not believe that these people are diabolically influenced or that evil demons exist.  

Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2024, 11:16:06 PM »
The "Deuterocomical" guy actually did release a video trying to debunk Dimonds magician video.  It's about an hour long.  I haven't seen it yet but am going to give it a view but I'm guessing he attacks some strawmen or only attacks one or two points and claims victory.