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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #80 on: February 06, 2025, 12:20:16 PM »
The Bill Cosby of the Top Hat Set.

So, I missed this post, but Copperstein was on the Epstein list.  He was supposed to perform some stunt (announced it months ahead of time) where he'd make the moon disappear, but then a few weeks before it was supposed to happen, his name showed up on a leaked copy of the list.  So, some organization called something like "Save the Children" was actually sponsoring this, so no doubt the sponsor had to back away from  this one ... although many of those organizations are in fact just fronts for cнιℓd тrαffιcking rings, yet to keep up their public front/image they'd have to back away from Copperstein.  Yet, Copperfield is fabulously welathy and could have funded it himself, so maybe it was just trying to keep a low profile til it all blew over, as Americans have very short attention spans.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #81 on: February 06, 2025, 12:50:33 PM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/magician-david-copperfield-implicated-jeffrey-epstein-case-trade-tickets-girls-2024-1

So the docs cite him as trading tickets for young girls.  Jews just can't help themselves I guess.

"Save the Children" then did just unceremoniously deleted any reference to the Copperstein stunt from their website.

This happened about 6 weeks before he was supposed to make the moon disappear ... where he was undoubtedly plotting to show the moon to some young girls while everyone was distracted with his illusions.


Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #82 on: February 06, 2025, 01:15:34 PM »
Although overcast, there was a moon last night. I guess it’s back to the drawing board! Perhaps a visit to Switzerland is in order? 

Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #83 on: February 06, 2025, 04:01:11 PM »
Sorry, but I don't have time for it.  Fact is that most of the attacks come from people who don't believe in the preternatural.

I wasted enough time on a couple of the "debunking" videos.  One of them had a guy welding together some apparatus made of steel to simulate the levitation guys ... problem with that being that the levitation guys in the Dimond video clearly have no such apparatus, as they get up, move around, etc.  ... and there would be absolutely no way to hide that.  One of those guys actually gets rid of his stick when someone tried to claim that his stick was involved.  He put his hand on some guy's head and did the same stunt, and at another time he actually let go and had no hands.

Debunking of the Great Wall of China was also absurd nonsense.  It involved the magician sneaking into the bottom of a cart that was then wheeled around this "wall" to "stand in for" the Great Wall of China, something in the studio that was about 20 feet in length that you could wheel a cart around.  Uhm, the Wall of China is 13,000 miles long and varies between 15 and 32 feet thick, of solid stone.  No way anyone was wheeling any kind of cart around it, nor did he dig a tunnel underneath it, and there were spectators on top of the wall for long distances, with cameras running looking down the length of the wall lest he find some way to climb over it, and then just magically re-appear under the sheet on the other side.

So the debunking videos were so ludicrous that they show nothing but bad faith, from individals who refuse to believe in the supernatural world.  Whether or not every single element depicted in the Dimond video is true or not we can't be certain about, but very many of them, and likely most of them, do involve preternatural activity.  Only someone who does not believe in the spiritual world can pretend otherwise, as they desperately try to rationalize away, and it's not worth my time to debate such a clown.  Have him contact the Dimond Brothers for a debate, but they probably don't want to waste their time on some infidel anyway.

You can't even spare an hour to discuss it with him? I find that hard to believe given since you have enough free time to spend on the internet and reply to me so quickly.  But hey, I can't force you to, I just thought maybe you would step up since the Dimond's are obviously too scared to debate him (he's challenged them multiple times).

I also suspect that you didn't actually watch his full response, because he clearly stated that he does believe in the preternatural/supernatural, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about.  He also clearly explained how Special Head (the levitating street performer) levitates and even addresses the video of him floating without the stick that you mentioned.  Have you wondered why he needs a human to stand right where his stick normally would be in order for it to work?  If he was literally and actually floating, he would do it without a spectator and without a stick.  Why does he need to touch someone's head?  It's clearly using their body to hide the mechanism (as explained in the video).

And regarding the Great Wall trick, there are several explanations (such as the use of a helicopter to lift him over the wall).  But the better question to ask yourself is, why did the assistants wheel away the steps away?  What was their reason for doing that if he wasn't hiding in there?  

I would just ask you to reflect on the possibility that all of the following statements can be simultaneously true without contradiction:
1.  The preternatural/supernatural world is real
2.  Magicians are very good at trickery, and every (or nearly every) trick in their "docuмentary" has an explanation
3.  Many magicians cause scandal by association with occult themes
4.  It is calumny for the Dimonds to broadly accuse every magician in their video of being empowered by demons when many of the tricks were shown to be simple explanations (why haven't the Dimond's apologized to the Chinese face changer?  They remove them from the newer versions of the video, but never apologized or admitted they were wrong)
5.  It's possible that were merely fooled by clever entertainers, and have again been fooled by clever Benedictine cosplayers


I hope you change your mind and debate Deuterocomical, because he has gone unchallenged and appears to be the clear victor right now.



Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #84 on: February 06, 2025, 08:01:46 PM »
You can't even spare an hour to discuss it with him? I find that hard to believe given since you have enough free time to spend on the internet and reply to me so quickly.

No more time than I have already spent on it.  I'm not going to spend hours trying to debunk every debuking attempt, as it's just not worth my time.  As for the time I spend on the internet, I work two jobs, 12 hours a day, 6.5 days per week, and the only way I survive is by taking a mental break every 20-30 minutes on average, looking at some threads, and typing quick responses.  I type very quickly so that I get comments from everyone, including colleagues from work.  I was starting to write some articles for Substack, but just can't find the time to finish them, because they require much more polish than making random posts on CI here that just roll off the top of my fingers, and I just type what I think.  Having debunked a couple of his examples suffices for me to know that he has some agenda and isn't being honest, and I for one know that much of this magic is performed due to diabolical agency, nor am I on some crusade of vitriolic contempt for the Dimond Brothers where I would spent the time just to attack them out of contempt.  So I have no motivation to spend this kind of time on it.  If I had extra time, I'd return to finishing up the Substack articles I started months ago.  You can see on my Member stats that I average roughly 8 posts per day, and if I had to guess, these average maybe 5 minutes per post on the high side.  Some are a bit longer, but others are very brief.  And, as I said, I type very quickly, without any polish or refinement, and not spending much time on it.