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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2024, 11:02:36 PM »
After watching the video I must say the presenter did produce some decent evidence debunking some of Dimonds claims for some of the tricks.  Video started strong-ish then he got a little bit into speculation territory with some ok statements/arguments in the middle which didn't necessarily refute anything but made some good alternating points and then brought up a few good points at the end and then challenged Michael Dimond to a debate on the matter.  He does admit there are sorcerors out there but doesn't think the ones he defended on the show that Dimonds attacked are using black magic and he does make some good points to this by showing how many of the tricks are done. 

Overall I give the guy a C+ (B- if I'm being generous) for this effort (he's a Novus Ordite though unfortunately) and think the video is worth a view to see the other side.

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2024, 06:45:02 AM »
The "Deuterocomical" guy actually did release a video trying to debunk Dimonds magician video.  It's about an hour long.  I haven't seen it yet but am going to give it a view but I'm guessing he attacks some strawmen or only attacks one or two points and claims victory.   


Good video. It's like debunking Lad's flat earth magic and supposed lying scientists with real physics. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's fake or false or real magic. It's too easy to be deceived. Look first to rational natural explanations even though you can't think of any.


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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #57 on: April 11, 2024, 07:09:53 AM »
Good video. It's like debunking Lad's flat earth magic and supposed lying scientists with real physics. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's fake or false or real magic. It's too easy to be deceived. Look first to rational natural explanations even though you can't think of any.

Most of the video is complete garbage, and the fact that you consider it "good" is a sign of your lack of intellectual capacity, and your lack of any deep supernatural faith.  There's no "magic" to flat earth either, and you have never refuted the flat earth position with any rational argument.  You're nothing but a faithless idiot.

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #58 on: April 11, 2024, 07:56:02 AM »
Most of the video is complete garbage, and the fact that you consider it "good" is a sign of your lack of intellectual capacity, and your lack of any deep supernatural faith.  There's no "magic" to flat earth either, and you have never refuted the flat earth position with any rational argument.  You're nothing but a faithless idiot.
It's good as far as it shows that most of the very believable tricks are just clever illusions. It shows how easy it is to be deceived by simple physics and nature. Certainly the video was not as thorough as it should have been, and surely there are some demonic forces at work.

You aren't me, so you can't judge the extent of my faith.

I have refuted some FE "proofs" in the past, then everyone goes quiet until they forget the refutation, then go back to their same old irrefutable "proofs".

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2024, 04:13:17 PM »
The "Deuterocomical" guy actually did release a video trying to debunk Dimonds magician video.  It's about an hour long.  I haven't seen it yet but am going to give it a view but I'm guessing he attacks some strawmen or only attacks one or two points and claims victory.   




Thank you for posting this. This was fantastic. I watched the majority of it, and yes, he answered the video very well. Just because Michael Dimond doesn't know how a trick is done, doesn't mean it was done by the devil.

It is superstitious to assign a supernatural cause to some event without proof. In the absence of proof of a supernatural causation, one must assume the cause is a natural event, even if one doesn't know what the natural cause is. This is the Catholic way of thinking. If Michael Dimond knew anything about the Catholic faith, he would know that.

So, if something good happens to you, you don't assume it happened because of your lucky rabbit's foot. You assume you just got lucky.