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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2024, 02:50:46 PM »
"I found a nickel behind your ear. Look at that!"

Looks like I'm a Satanist. :laugh1::laugh1:

Ridiculous.  People with your attitude beg the question that people don't make these deals with demons, almost showing a lack of faith in the invisible preternatural world, and also naively thinking that the world isn't filled with Satanists and Luciferians.  Those videos are filled with magicians talking about how they work with demons and have made deals with demons to perform their "magic", and the vast majority of what's on the film could not be accomplished by natural means ... if they aren't 100% CGI, except that a great many of them are performed publicly, often out in the open where there's nothing above but the sky, precluding the use of wires, etc.

Watch that one 5-hour video about the Satanists/Masons put out by the former X-Factor winner in Australia where he lays it all out, about how the vast majority of the entertainers and politicians are engaged with the occult.

Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2024, 02:54:20 PM »
Anyway, we are supposed to assume there is a natural explanation for something unless the contrary is proved.

Ridiculous, and it's quite the opposite.  You assume that there is a natural explanation until proven otherwise, but unless these demons materialize you'd never be satisfied.  Apart from CGI and camera tricks, there's simply no natural explanation for most of what's shown in the video.  In many cases, camera tricks can be ruled out because the stunts are performed publicly and in front of very large crowds.

Some posters here have very little actual believe in the spiritual world, that there are demons everywhere, and that many performers cut deal with demons in order to become rich and famous.


Offline Sneedevacantist

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Re: Dimonds double down on magicans - and new sedevacantist group?
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2024, 06:38:18 PM »
I personally know a handful of converts that came to Traditionalism (from other faiths) due to the Diamonds.  All converts were men. 


The Diamonds are a little nutty on some things, and I don't like their constant anathemas of heresy, but...in our overly feminized, wishy-washy, "maybe, sometimes" world, the Diamonds presentation of the Faith as "yes, yes and no, no" speaks to people, mostly men.  It works.  Can't argue with results.
I'm one of those converts. Someone had posted a link to their Steven Anderson docuмentary on 4chan, which is how I found out about them years ago. Even though I had an anti-Catholic bias during that time due to my Baptist Bible Belt upbringing, I still watched the video because Steven Anderson annoyed me (some people on 4chan would constantly shill for him, which sparked my annoyance). It was well worth it, because Peter Dimond was able to thoroughly dismantle Steven Anderson's wicked errors using the Bible alone. Every citation from scripture I double checked in my KJV, and sure enough it lined up. After that video, I became more interested in learning about traditional Catholicism. Eventually I moved on past them because there were some red flags in the back of my mind about them, but it took a while to move past them as I was slowly discerning truth in the sea of trad chaos. If I would have remained a dogmatic Dimondite, I would have never started attending Mass or properly learned the faith. The value of the sacraments cannot be understated!!!

It's just too bad that the Dimonds espouse some errors, because their orthodox material is some of the best online that I've found. Their apologetics against non-Catholics is very compelling, and their blunt delivery is refreshing in a world where people constantly beat around the bush.

Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2024, 07:33:34 PM »
It's just too bad that the Dimonds espouse some errors, because their orthodox material is some of the best online that I've found. Their apologetics against non-Catholics is very compelling, and their blunt delivery is refreshing in a world where people constantly beat around the bush.

Agreed.  To me, the only significant error they hold is in assigning the note of heresy to BoD per se (rather than just its extension), since it's clear that the Church has long tolerated the opinion, and there no direct smoking-gun contradiction with defined dogma.  I do agree with them that BoD doesn't exist (except in the St. Ambrose sense of "washing but not crowning", or Father Feeney's justification but no salvation), that there's no need for it, and its extension has caused irreparable harm to EENS dogma, just not with the conclusion that everyone who believes in BoD, including those who limit it to Catechumens and the like are therefore heretics.  Apart from that I have a few smaller disagreements, i.e. about whether JP2 was THE Antichrist ... but that's just opinion and neither here nor there for me.  I also find some of their arguments to be logically faulty, even if I don't disagree with the overall conclusion (sometimes for other reasons).  They used to be far too bitter, but they have certainly softened their tone of late, while remaining very blunt and direct (which I too find refreshing).

Offline AnthonyPadua

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« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2024, 09:39:36 PM »
I went to that website, and instantly my screen was covered with a gigantic image of the masonic all-seeing eye in the pyramid, like on the back of the $1 bill.

That appears to be their logo.

The whole site gives me the creeps. Who are these people?
The eye of providence is (was) a Catholic symbol, you will notice it in a lot of Catholic art. Though I do find off putting they chose such an eerie red and black version.