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Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« Reply #75 on: May 16, 2022, 09:42:28 PM »
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  • https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2020/04/infiltration-who-is-really-doing-it.html

    Excerpts:
    You can believe what you like about him, but linked above is a handy list and it only goes deeper if you actually do some research into Taylor Marshall and Opus Dei.



    This is good dxcat40

    Marshall is funded celebrity, an Opus judei talking head operative.  He's a Jєω and admitted lover of the JPII fake saint, Jose Escriva.

    Marshall replaced the tired-out, ex queer and fake trad, Michael Voris, who broadcasts his rants from an old Opus judei office building.

    Opus judei uses imposter traditionalist as "talking heads" to herd the Catholic remnant.

    Until Archbishop Vigano renounces his association with Opus judei, I'd consider him a talking-head too.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #76 on: May 16, 2022, 09:55:01 PM »
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  • Until Archbishop Vigano renounces his association with Opus judei, I'd consider him a talking-head too.
    There was a recent MHFM video on tradservative persona Anthony Stine aka "Return To Tradition" which showed that the Google algorithm actually SELECTS for Vigano tags, rather than hides him. That's suspicious to me.

    9:50 in the following
    "For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears:" [2 Tim. 4:3]

    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]


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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #77 on: May 16, 2022, 10:24:58 PM »
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  • Hello again, the dimonds said the maitreya was the antichrist in the late 90's in their Biblical End Times prophecies video.
    Hello again. Ok so here is the exact quote Frederick Dimond said in the 90's version  "Biblical End Times Prophecies"    "Now the person I think may very well be the Antichrist, a man called Lord Maitreya. I don't know absolutely. I'm not saying I know these things. I'm just putting out information. It's up to you to decide."  Then they changed that to the different popes they were calling antichrists, which it reminds me of protestant theories. That's all.

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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #78 on: May 16, 2022, 11:25:31 PM »
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  • Since you were an avid supporter of the dimonds, did you attend Mass?
    I attended a Indult Mass for a period of years. In 2014 the Dimond brothers wrote an article essentially saying Catholics shouldn't do this. I made the mistake of giving up attending. That's an issue they have no business binding consciences on. After that, I began to attend Divine Liturgy at an Eastern Catholic Church.

     

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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #79 on: May 16, 2022, 11:45:11 PM »
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  • I don't disagree with a single thing you have said. Their attitude is the most concerning thing about them, and I've posted about that many times here before (the Bp. Dolan thread being the most recent). It's obviously a hidden pride that is effecting them in their exchanges with others, so I've been praying for them.

    As for the JPII is Antichrist subject, like I initially said I agree with a lot of their points which prove without a doubt that JPII was AN Antichrist, it remains to be seen if he is THE Antichrist, but again, their evidence is compelling.

    I'll pray for you.
    Yes, I myself have suspected that Pride may be effecting them. For instance, in 2010 in their series "Is the world about to end?" they mention that they believe the volcanic eruption in Iceland is one of the vials of the Apocalypse being poured on the beast.  In the Bro. Peter Dimond says "Its quite interesting this week as we were finalizing the more important of this recent video series, that we believe the EU is part of the beast, a volcano erupted in Iceland. Sending a dark ash cloud over Europe..."

    They believed that this may have been the fulfillment of Apocalypse 16:10. One can tell that it is implied that this fulfillment is to confirm their opinions on the Apocalypse. Then years later, in 2017 they released another video. In which they say a power outage in Brussels, Belgium is the fulfillment of Apocalypse 16:10. They assert that this was the fulfilment because they were on Coast to Coast Radio the night before. Again, prophecy's being fulfilled to confirm what they're saying. I think they're off the mark there! It's a rather presumptive way of thinking. 

    Thank you for your prayers.



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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #80 on: May 16, 2022, 11:55:46 PM »
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  • This is good dxcat40

    Marshall is funded celebrity, an Opus judei talking head operative.  He's a Jєω and admitted lover of the JPII fake saint, Jose Escriva.

    Marshall replaced the tired-out, ex queer and fake trad, Michael Voris, who broadcasts his rants from an old Opus judei office building.

    Opus judei uses imposter traditionalist as "talking heads" to herd the Catholic remnant.

    Until Archbishop Vigano renounces his association with Opus judei, I'd consider him a talking-head too.


    Those things have to be kept in mind.  Plus even though Archbishop Vigano says the right things, he still promotes Trump and Benedict XVI--

    ---while exposing the "deep state"?

    That just doesn't make sense.

    He's still fond for the guy who wants to be known as the "Father of the Vaccine" and was pals with Epstein and Maxwell for over 30 years

    and the Pope who wore a mitre with the Jєωιѕн star and stated that there is no mission to convert the Jєωs and they don't wait for their messiah in vain.

    Who is this messiah they are waiting for?  The Moshiach---Antichrist!








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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #81 on: May 17, 2022, 12:00:30 AM »
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  • When Vigano calls out Benedict XVI, I'll start to take him seriously.

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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #82 on: May 17, 2022, 01:18:27 AM »
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  • If Vigano and Marshall want to expose the "Deep State" then why didn't they expose this?

    Ivanka Trump visits the Lubavitcher rebbe’s grave ahead of election

    https://www.jta.org/2016/11/06/politics/ivanka-trump-visits-the-lubavitcher-rebbes-grave-ahead-of-election



    So Trump kids are praying at the grave of the Rebbe Schneerson, who Chabad believed was the messiah and led Jєωs to believe that redemption by sin would bring forth the Moshiach, for help with Trump's election.

    Trump who flew on the Lolita Express and said that Epstein is a great friend who likes beautiful women almost as much as he does and "I'll tell you something else.  He likes them young."

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/jeffrey-epstein-and-donald-trump-epic-bromance

    Vigano is warning Trump about the Deep State??  Like he doesn't know??

    Vigano and Marshall are warning the world about Francis and declaring that Benedict is still pope as if that is any better??

    This all stinks to high Heaven and looks like a set up.

    Beware "The Savior" who comes after the destruction.





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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #83 on: May 17, 2022, 02:21:57 AM »
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  • From what I understand, and I haven't read the book so correct me if I'm wrong, but I've asked people who have read Taylor Marshall's book, Infiltration, and it seems to leave out a certain group of people involved.

    Perhaps if he had read what St Maxilimillian Kolbe had to say about the Freemasonic infiltration he could have included that in his book.

    This is from Wikipedia:

    Kolbe has been accused of antisemitism. In 1926, in the first issue of the monthly Knight of the Immaculate, Kolbe said he considered Freemasons "as an organized clique of fanatical Jєωs, who want to destroy the church."[29] In a calendar that the publishing house of his organization, the Militia of the Immaculate, published in an edition of a million in 1939, Kolbe wrote, "Atheistic Communism seems to rage ever more wildly. Its origin can easily be located in that criminal mafia that calls itself Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and the hand that is guiding all that toward a clear goal is international Zionism. Which should not be taken to mean that even among Jєωs one cannot find good people."[30] Newspapers he published printed articles about topics such as a Zionist plot for world domination.[31][32][33]



    This would be some good information to add to his book:
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    With all of his research on the Freemasonic infiltration of the Church, why he didn't come across this information?

    He also refused to have E Michael Jones (another shill but one who discusses the JQ) on his show.  I wonder why?

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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #84 on: May 17, 2022, 07:00:39 AM »
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  • Hello All,
    ...
    I would like to add my two cents on the Dimond brothers.
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    Lastly, as I am new here, I would like to kindly ask any of you who read this to pray a Hail Mary for me. I would greatly appreciate that. Thank you.

    This is an incredibly well balanced post, and it's a breath of fresh air to read.  I feel precisely the same way about the Dimond Brothers, that they have done a tremendous amount of good and are right about almost every position they've taken (even if every once in a while their logic is a bit off IMO), but that they have succuмbed to bitter zeal.  I have been praying for them.  At the same time, most of those who despise the Dimonds (and I don't use the term "despise" lightly or loosely here) have a similarly-bitter and contemptuous attitude toward THEM, and this has in fact contributed to the bitter zeal that they themselves have slid into.  One might say it's a bit hypocritical.  Bishop Dolan started in on a rather uncharitable attack against them, and yet he's not criticized for that, only the Dimond Brothers after they responded in kind.  It's OK to bash the Dimond Brothers, and "open season" has been declared against them by a lot of Trads.  So it's OK for people to slander and deride the Dimond Brothers, but then when they respond in kind, oh the horror, look at the lack of charity.  When people attack them as bitterly and ruthlessly as they do, anyone would be tempted to become bitter.  They are not wrong to a point when they hold that many of their opponents are of bad will.  You can see that in particular on the EENS issue, where it often becomes obvious that most people who have a "loose" interpretation of EENS simply don't WANT to believe the dogma as-is.  But there's this kind of "bad will" and there's a more malicious bad will, and I think it's important to distinguish.  They also often accuse people of "mortal" sin, and that's a matter of the internal forum, so they need to start referring to grave sin instead of mortal.  They do too much judging of the internal forum.

    But I pray for them, and I found their video about Taylor Marshall to be very well balanced and extremely charitable ... and I hope and pray that it's a trend that continues.  Even their video about Bishop Dolan was a lot more measured than it used to be.  In the past, one could almost detect a tone of delight when a certain "heretic" passed away and were, in their judgment, now in hell.

    In any case, with Taylor Marshall, they used a lot of more balanced terms, that he's confused, in contradiction with himself, etc.  And they adequately demonstrated that in their video.  But they never hurled around the terms declaring him to be of "bad will" or even the word "heretic".  I think it's clear that Taylor Marshall is not of bad will, but that he is confused, and who isn't confused by this diabolical confusion these days?  Perhaps they could at least come to the realization that they could be a lot more persuasive if they were to put aside the harsh and bitter rhetoric.

    I think that part of the reason they go into the internal forum is due to their emphasis on MANIFEST heresy as excluding from the Church.  But the quote they held up their from St. Robert Bellarmine in his video reinforces the fact that we cannot know or judge the internal forum, and that's why we stick to manifest heresy.  But I think that one element of MANIFEST heresy is that the pertinacity also needs to be manifest.  You can't just say, "he just made a heretical statement.  He's outside the Church."  Someone could have simply misspoken or tripped up.  From there, the Dimonds then argue that if one has them been shown all the evidence and the arguments and they persist in their heresy, and yet persist in their error, then they are to be presumed pertinacious heretics.  Problem there is that the Dimonds don't have any authority, and even the best syllogism contains elements of human reasoning.  OK, the argument looks solid, but did they miss a distinction here or there?  And every once in a while, I do feel as if they've missed a distinction.

    As you point out, some of the criticisms of them are extremely petty, the claim that theirs is a money-making operation.  I experienced the same thing you describe where after I placed an order, they threw in a bunch of extra stuff which left me thinking they had lost money on the transaction.  They're definitely not about money.  They have a true zeal for the truth and for spreading it.  And then there's the nonsense about how they're "fake" religious.  What does that mean these days?  All Traditional religious are technically fake religious.  No one is canonically approved where they would be considered official religious in normal times of the Church.  I give them the same respect as I do to other Traditional religious.  I do tend to call them the Dimond Brothers (rather than by their religious names), but that's only because I'm terrible with names and don't really get who is who of the two Brothers.  But I capitalize Brothers, and I respect them for what they have done.  They make great videos and do a lot of good, and I continue to pray for them that they soften their bitterness, because I strongly believe that they could do 10x more good if they were to do so, and could be much more persuasive.

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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #85 on: May 17, 2022, 07:08:21 AM »
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  • From what I understand, and I haven't read the book so correct me if I'm wrong, but I've asked people who have read Taylor Marshall's book, Infiltration, and it seems to leave out a certain group of people involved.
    ...
    With all of his research on the Freemasonic infiltration of the Church, why he didn't come across this information?

    He also refused to have E Michael Jones (another shill but one who discusses the JQ) on his show.  I wonder why?

    It's probably because he's terrified of the backlash and of being called Anti-semitic.  I may be wrong, but I suspect that Taylor makes his living off his public persona, his channel and books, etc. ... and so I imagine that being blacklisted would have a serious impact on him.  For that reason, he probably chooses to stay away from that subject.  That's one reason I admire Patrick Coffin's recently coming out as a Bennyvacantist (even though I disagree with the position itself).  That pretty much put a nail in the coffin (pun intended) of his EWTN appearances, and he's going to be more and more marginalized from his normal sources of income.  I had been in the habit of listening to his show in the afternoons on EWTN radio, as I went to pick up my kids from school every day about that time.  And I sensed more and more that he was becoming hostile to Bergoglio and a few times came within a hair's breadth of calling Bergoglio an outright heretic.  So I was wondering how much longer before his show was off the air.  I was not mistaken in detecting that tone from him.


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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #86 on: May 17, 2022, 07:35:30 AM »
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  • It's probably because he's terrified of the backlash and of being called Anti-semitic. ...

    Oh really? :clown:

    I actually forgot that our own Mark79 even has an entire page dedicated to the topic of Opus Dei:


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    Spanish Jєω Reveals Secret History of Opus Judei
     
    The following explanation is sent by a collaborator of Hebrew origin and Kabbalistic practice who for years was shown as Catholic, but who finally decided to make use of her secret identity to particularize and clarify some of the practices of kabbalists who infiltrated in the Catholic Church for centuries, and now in the Neo Conciliar Church.
     
    On this occasion he reveals to us something of what had spread about the Marrano José María Escriv(b)a [note: parenthetical spelling might refer to Escriva’s name change from the judaic Escriba] to Balaguer y Albás, founder of Opus Dei, and he does it from the Hebrew point of view:
     
    When you talk about the Opus Dei as Kabbalists, you have to specify something. They are not just a group of people who practice the Hebrew kabbalah disguised as devout Catholics, but something else.…


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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #87 on: May 17, 2022, 07:52:14 AM »
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  • .  That's one reason I admire Patrick Coffin's recently coming out as a Bennyvacantist (even though I disagree with the position itself).  That pretty much put a nail in the coffin (pun intended) of his EWTN appearances, and he's going to be more and more marginalized from his normal sources of income.  I had been in the habit of listening to his show in the afternoons on EWTN radio, as I went to pick up my kids from school every day about that time.  And I sensed more and more that he was becoming hostile to Bergoglio and a few times came within a hair's breadth of calling Bergoglio an outright heretic.  So I was wondering how much longer before his show was off the air.  I was not mistaken in detecting that tone from him.

    Didn't Mother Teresa set up EWTN with the help of Jєωιѕн money at the beginning so they are basically Novus Ordo with a light touch of Tradition, and they they are more or less part of the controlled opposition anyway.

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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
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  • This is good dxcat40

    Marshall is funded celebrity, an Opus judei talking head operative.  He's a Jєω and admitted lover of the JPII fake saint, Jose Escriva.

    Marshall replaced the tired-out, ex queer and fake trad, Michael Voris, who broadcasts his rants from an old Opus judei office building.

    Opus judei uses imposter traditionalist as "talking heads" to herd the Catholic remnant.

    Until Archbishop Vigano renounces his association with Opus judei, I'd consider him a talking-head too.

    I always felt strange when I saw Marshall at mass.

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    Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
    « Reply #89 on: May 17, 2022, 08:30:12 AM »
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  • As with all conspiracy theories, to render them plausible you have to provide a reasonable cui bono?.

    I have yet to see anything that +Vigano has done that benefits the conspirators.  If he were an agent of controlled opposition, he'd be herding people back into the Conciliar Church, Motu and FSSP style, but instead he's swung clearly to the RIGHT of the FSSP and SSPX on several issues.  He's standing a hair's breadth away from sedevacantism, and currently seems to be of a Resistance mindset.  He's even made a reference to the Jєωs being involved in the attack on the Church.

    So this conspiracy theory I consider to be total bunk.