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Offline Ladislaus

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Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« on: May 16, 2022, 08:01:33 AM »
I bring this up because I was pleasantly surprised by the more charitable and softer tone that the Dimond Brothers took with Taylor Marshall.

https://endtimes.video/taylor-marshall/

I've long defended them, that they do a tremendous amount of good and are right about (almost IMO) every issue, with some minor disagreements, but what has hurt them and has hurt the good they are capable of doing has been the bitter tone, the denunciation of people as pertinacious heretics even if they are obviously deceived or confused.  It's clear that someone like a Taylor Marshall has the Catholic faith and if they're wrong about some things (and he is), it's understandable and not due to any kind of formal errors.  These times are incredibly confusing.  I've been praying for the Dimond Brothers that their bitter zeal could be softened, and that they rein in some of their accusations of heresy when it's clear that people are confused.  I can see the temptation to get bitter when you're constantly being ruthlessly attacked and you see the truth attacked.

During this video, I don't recall them ever denouncing Taylor Marshall as a heretic.  They use terms like deceived, confused, in contradiction, etc. ... and all that is true.  But it's clear that if someone like that is in error, it's material error, and it's very understandable given the diabolical confusion of our times.  Litmus test for a pertinacious heretic is whether if the Magisterium were to formally teach something, they would immediately accept it.

There were in fact a few quotes from Marshall which I do believe were materially heretical, such as when he said that the Church became corrupt after the persecutioins (along the line of what many Prots hold), and I was ducking and waiting for the charge of heresy from the Dimond Brothers (and there would be some ground to it for those quotes) ... but it never came.  They concluded with the impression that Marshall is confused, in contradiction, and deceived.

I applaud the Dimond Brothers for this video ... and I think most of their videos are terrific, but the tone here was welcome and pleasant.

Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2022, 09:05:17 AM »
I think they seem to take a harsher tone with those who are more obstinate in their errors, or, who have the training and authority (i.e trad clergy) to know better.

It's a good video. I think Dr. Marshall is getting closer to the truth as time goes on, so we should pray for him. And, admittedly, the more I've reflected on their material, I also think the Dimonds might be closer to the truth than anyone else on the interpretation of the current Crisis as the fulfillment of the Apocalypse. JPII was an antichrist, no doubt, THE Antichrist, perhaps, I find myself in agreement with them the more I've reflected on it. But, I can be wrong.


Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2022, 09:13:57 AM »
I think they seem to take a harsher tone with those who are more obstinate in their errors, or, who have the training and authority (i.e trad clergy) to know better.

It's a good video. I think Dr. Marshall is getting closer to the truth as time goes on, so we should pray for him. And, admittedly, the more I've reflected on their material, I also think the Dimonds might be closer to the truth than anyone else on the interpretation of the current Crisis as the fulfillment of the Apocalypse. JPII was an antichrist, no doubt, THE Antichrist, perhaps, I find myself in agreement with them the more I've reflected on it. But, I can be wrong.

Yes, I'm convinced that JP2 was AN Antichrist, some kind of forerunner.  But their opinion about him being THE Antichrist, that's not a matter of doctrine, so I don't really care too much about it.  It's interesting to debate and speculate about, but not that important.

They also released an update about the Magicians (that has about 40 minutes of extra video since their last release), and I'm looking forward to that.  It's an amazing video, and their intent is to demonstrate to people that there is a real invisible world out there.  Now, the one concern is that people seeing it might be tempted to join these magicians, since the Dimonds are actually revealing the source of their magic ... demonic spirits.  But for those who have the faith, it really makes the existence of demons very real.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2022, 09:15:55 AM »
And I agree that Dr. Marshall is getting closer.  After the whole Pachamama thing, that caused him to reflect that, "hey, JP2 did the same thing and more".  He's slowly started to re-examine all the V2 papal claimants.  Patrick Coffin has come out Bennyvacatist (I doubt he'll be welcome on EWTN going forward).  Bergoglio has done a lot to actually expose the entire Vatican II period.

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2022, 09:20:49 AM »
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But their opinion about him being THE Antichrist, that's not a matter of doctrine
:jester:  Nor is it a matter of fact.  It would be like "speculating" on a prophecy that held in the latter days there would be a great saintly priest, with the stigmata, that converted Islam and then making a video how this applies to St Padre Pio.  :facepalm:  But Padre Pio didn't convert Islam, one would counter, and he's been dead for multiple decades.  "Oh", they would say, "it's still possible, through his intercession."  :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:


JP2 was not the antichrist.  An 8th grader can read the cliffs notes on the Apocalypse and come to this conclusion.  If one further reads the cliffs notes from the Church Fathers, they will see this theory is so crazy it's almost in the realm of heresy.  As smart as the Dimond brothers are, why they keep talking about this is very concerning (it makes me question their sanity)...unless it's about $/sales.