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Offline mirarivos

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Dimond Brothers Exposed in Book
« on: August 12, 2011, 01:52:33 PM »
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  • This book "exposes" the Dimond Brothers of Most Holy Family Monastery.

    A must read!

    http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/communicatio-in-sacris/4818965?productTrackingContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/1


    Numberless quotes from Popes, Saints, Theologians, Doctors of the Church, Councils.

    Amazing!


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    « Reply #1 on: August 12, 2011, 02:23:27 PM »
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  • Hmm... are you supporting the Diamond bro's? I wouldn't support them w/ my money (by buying their book). They are very dangerous.


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    « Reply #2 on: August 12, 2011, 02:28:13 PM »
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  • In what way does this book expose the MHFM?

    They may not get everything right and they may be rather rude, but they sure are doing a lot more to expose the VII anti-church than are most people.

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    1) This book is a goldmine of rich tradition and historical Dogmas of the Roman Catholic Church and why the "Church" has constantly forbidden Catholics to pray "with" non-Catholics. And certainly, the CMRI, SSPX, MHFM, SBC are "not" Catholic!

    2) Also, the book points out the inconsistent "errors" of the CMRI, SSPX, SSPV, MHFM, SBC and many others.

    3) It also attacks the "Most Holy Family Monastery" and Bros. Michael and Peter Dimond, as being Heretical and scandalous - a must read!

    4) And, I was totally unaware that Br. Andre Marie of the Saint Benedict Center In New Hampshire said that a "Freemason" could become pope.

    5) Another part of the book deals with the Russian Orthodox Church and how it was invloved with the KGB -- what a shocker!

    6) I was a little wary of the book but as I read I seen more and more the truth revealed. The book also states that the late Abp. Lefebvre and Bishop Mayer were Heretics for rejecting John Paul II.

    7) Another section gets into the details of the Sedevacantist Chapels calling them Schismatical and Heretical. I think I read in the book about how Bishop Henneberry in Flordia was guilty or at least suspect of immorality along with Bishop Jason Spadafore.

    8) Another part of the book condemns Deacon Mark A. Pivarunas as a Heretic for allowing people to go and receive "Communion" in the Chapels of the SSPX, yet is SedeVacantist.

    9) Funny, the SEDEVACANTIST schismatics hold that the SSPX chapels are heretical but it is ok to receive "communion" in extreme necessity at the hands of the SSPX - is that "not" a contradicition?


    Here are a few ridiculous comments from a ridiculous (and likely) Novus Ordo reviewer who has no idea of what she's talking about. I'm actually astonished by how absurd the reviewer is in making it seem like she's being sarcastic because she keeps putting everything in quotations, yet does not really make it clear as to whatever it is she's talking about.

    1) Of all the possible things they could talk about with regards to Catholics praying with non-Catholics, they talk about societies and people that are actually Catholic. Saying that the SSPX isn't Catholic, of all things, is the most retarded thing I've ever heard spewed from a neo-Catholic's mouth. I'm sure this ignoramus isn't even aware of what his anti-church has to say about the SSPX, and how the faithful can attend their Masses and that they are not in schism. Instead of choosing to attack Benedict's manifestly heretical practices of going to Assisi to pray with infidels, heretics and schismatics, they attack trads. Wow.

    2) As for the errors of the CMRI, SSPX and so on.. What are the few errors of these few societies compared to the astronomical amount of errors of the VII anti-Church and its children?

    3) I will not comment on MHFM being heretical, because I'm not exactly sure if I can say that they are or aren't heretical (for the most part they are not).

    4) A Freemason cannot become Pope because a Freemason is not Catholic. People don't make it to the papacy, far less the priesthood, without at least having a vague notion of what Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is.

    5) Anyone who isn't oblivious to the fact that Communism completely (and yes, completely) overshadowed Russia could easily deduce that the Russian "Orthodox" Church was overrun with Communism.

    6) If anyone is a heretic for denying anyone, it is John Paul II for denying Abp. Lefebvre.

    7) Sedevacantist chapels are usually more likely to be right in virtually everything, whereas a Novus Ordo parish is likely to be wrong about almost everything.

    8) All "sedevacantism" is is a theological opinion that the current claimant to the Papal throne is not the incuмbent Pope. How this would effect the eligibility to receive communion is beyond me. By reasonably doubting the Papacy of a certain Papal claimant, how is one denying any dogma or doctrine? (Hint: They're not)

    9) What a blatantly idiotic thing to say. It's obvious this person isn't aware of the fact that not all sedevacantists hold the same opinion of the SSPX.

    Man, what a stupid reviewer. I feel as though my IQ was lowered slightly from having had the displeasure of reading such scandalously embarrassing rubbish.
    For those who I have unjustly offended, please forgive me. Please disregard my posts where I lacked charity and you will see that I am actually a very nice person. Disregard my opinions on "NFP", "Baptism of Desire/Blood" and the changes made to the sacra

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    « Reply #3 on: August 12, 2011, 02:41:03 PM »
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    In what way does this book expose the MHFM?

    It doesn't. This may be them trying to make an extra buck;

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    They may not get everything right and they may be rather rude, but they sure are doing a lot more to expose the VII anti-church than are most people.


    True to the first, second, and third points. The fact is that to most people, who are less studied, reading their commentary is very dangerous. Not because what they say is all wrong, but because much of what they say that is wrong is easily accessible and (to the new Traditionalist) believable. There are plenty of other resources out there that is useful without having to visit their website.

    Also, I'm not sure if its been stated, but I think they may teach heresy too, and supporting them may dangerous if true. But someone will have to clarify.

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    « Reply #4 on: August 12, 2011, 04:29:58 PM »
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    Hmm... are you supporting the Diamond bro's? I wouldn't support them w/ my money (by buying their book). They are very dangerous.


    I don't know that dangerous is the word, considering they atleast try to follow Tradition (plus they don't have many followers anyway). But I do think they're what one would call "extreme sedevacantists". To say the SSPX isn't Catholic is nuts, and that's not being sarcastic like the person who Daegus quoted. They also label way too many people as heretics. Heck, you're even a heretic if you bring up their law-suit!

     :laugh1:
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #5 on: August 12, 2011, 04:38:09 PM »
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    I don't know that dangerous is the word, considering they atleast try to follow Tradition (plus they don't have many followers anyway)...


    I don't know SS, the pharisees tried to follow tradition as well, but I don't believe you'd see our Lord tell you to hang out with them. I still believe there's something dangerous (spiritually) by surfing the ideas of self proclaimed brothers; is this just me? There's plenty out there that can satisfy one's learning without believing that the mindset of calling everyone a heretic is a good thing.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 12, 2011, 04:41:41 PM »
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    I don't know that dangerous is the word, considering they atleast try to follow Tradition (plus they don't have many followers anyway)...


    I don't know SS, the pharisees tried to follow tradition as well, but I don't believe you'd see our Lord tell you to hang out with them. I still believe there's something dangerous (spiritually) by surfing the ideas of self proclaimed brothers; is this just me? There's plenty out there that can satisfy one's learning without believing that the mindset of calling everyone a heretic is a good thing.


    Whether you realize it or not, I actually agree with you about the Dimond Brothers. I have seem some good stuff from them, but the fact that they give themselves false authority and "excommunicate" nearly everyone but themselves is foolish. I still don't know if dangerous is the word...maybe something more like crazy. They have very few followers, so they must not be very convincing towards people.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 12, 2011, 04:45:57 PM »
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    I don't know that dangerous is the word, considering they atleast try to follow Tradition (plus they don't have many followers anyway)...


    I don't know SS, the pharisees tried to follow tradition as well, but I don't believe you'd see our Lord tell you to hang out with them. I still believe there's something dangerous (spiritually) by surfing the ideas of self proclaimed brothers; is this just me? There's plenty out there that can satisfy one's learning without believing that the mindset of calling everyone a heretic is a good thing.


    Whether you realize it or not, I actually agree with you about the Dimond Brothers. I have seem some good stuff from them, but the fact that they give themselves false authority and "excommunicate" nearly everyone but themselves is foolish. I still don't know if dangerous is the word...maybe something more like crazy. They have very few followers, so they must not be very convincing towards people.


    Not being convincing to most people in this day and age isn't exactly anything that incriminates anyone. If it was, then what say you of the millions upon millions of pseudo-Catholics, false trads, etc that don't believe in the traditions of the Church?

    I think what really screws the Dimond Brothers more than anything else is their attitude of virtually everyone being a heretic except them and the fact that they are, as I've said, rather rude. They also tend to get dogmatic about pretty much everything which can't help much either. It's a shame too because they have such great material.

    Edit: Didn't finish a sentence.
    For those who I have unjustly offended, please forgive me. Please disregard my posts where I lacked charity and you will see that I am actually a very nice person. Disregard my opinions on "NFP", "Baptism of Desire/Blood" and the changes made to the sacra


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    « Reply #8 on: August 12, 2011, 08:06:50 PM »
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  • Hey, it appears we have someone who registered just to tout his or his brother-in-law's book.  If I ever say the words "a must read" you all have my permission to shoot me.


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    « Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 08:24:29 PM »
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  • They really were my first glimpse into sedevacantism and anything anti-Vatican II, and gave me the courage to continue onward in the good fight against evil and modernism. Yeah, they can seem uncharitable at times or too angry, but the substance is there regardless.

    Great video from them I still watch from time to time to rekindle the fire for warfare against evil :




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    « Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 08:53:25 PM »
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    I don't know that dangerous is the word, considering they atleast try to follow Tradition (plus they don't have many followers anyway)...


    I don't know SS, the pharisees tried to follow tradition as well, but I don't believe you'd see our Lord tell you to hang out with them. I still believe there's something dangerous (spiritually) by surfing the ideas of self proclaimed brothers; is this just me? There's plenty out there that can satisfy one's learning without believing that the mindset of calling everyone a heretic is a good thing.


    Well, He went to dinner at their houses on occasion.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #11 on: August 13, 2011, 09:46:02 AM »
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    I don't know that dangerous is the word, considering they atleast try to follow Tradition (plus they don't have many followers anyway)...


    I don't know SS, the pharisees tried to follow tradition as well, but I don't believe you'd see our Lord tell you to hang out with them. I still believe there's something dangerous (spiritually) by surfing the ideas of self proclaimed brothers; is this just me? There's plenty out there that can satisfy one's learning without believing that the mindset of calling everyone a heretic is a good thing.


    Well, He went to dinner at their houses on occasion.


    And rebuked them more than anyone.

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    « Reply #12 on: August 13, 2011, 09:07:25 PM »
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  • Indeed.  It is a wonder He ever got invited a second time.   :smile:
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #13 on: November 05, 2011, 08:15:42 PM »
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  • Quote from: mirarivos
    This book "exposes" the Dimond Brothers of Most Holy Family Monastery.

    A must read!

    http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/communicatio-in-sacris/4818965?productTrackingContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/1


    Numberless quotes from Popes, Saints, Theologians, Doctors of the Church, Councils.

    Amazing!


    This is the troll "romantheology."
    Please ignore all that I have written regarding sedevacantism.