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Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
« on: September 12, 2020, 04:01:22 PM »
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  • I thought I'd start a new thread on this, which came up in another discussion. The name Dimond is a variant spelling of the name Diamond, which is Jєωιѕн. Neil Diamond, for example, is one of the most famous Jєωs with this name.
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    Here is some proof:
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    It is also noteworthy that they were not raised Catholic, and only claim to have converted to Catholicism.

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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #1 on: September 12, 2020, 04:38:22 PM »
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  • I don't post much anymore on CI, but, I've always said the same thing when the sheep on CI post against the Dimond's:

    I like the Dimond's, they have conviction and are not afraid to  say what they believe, even if they are not liked by some people. They have intestinal fortitude. I have nothing but respect for people like that.
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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #2 on: September 12, 2020, 05:15:51 PM »
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  • Lots of names have Jєωιѕн backgrounds.  That’s not evidence. 

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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #3 on: September 12, 2020, 05:28:58 PM »
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  • If this man were a Jєω, it'd be the biggest surprise of my life:



    Most Jєωιѕн surnames were originally German ones that we now associate largely with Jєωs. Considering his birth name was Frederick, I'd wager German ancestry before Jєωιѕн.i

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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #4 on: September 12, 2020, 05:35:30 PM »
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  • Lots of names have Jєωιѕн backgrounds.  That’s not evidence.
    Can you please explain this? Having a Jєωιѕн last name sure seems to me like evidence that someone is a Jєω.


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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #5 on: September 12, 2020, 05:40:00 PM »
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  • Can you please explain this? Having a Jєωιѕн last name sure seems to me like evidence that someone is a Jєω.
    Because most "Jєωιѕн" surnames are just German surnames. In the US you can usually tell a Jєω because he has "-mann" or "-berg" at the end of his name, but these would also be common with non-Jєωιѕн Germans.

    Also, on another note, I looked up Dimond and found nothing saying it comes from Diamond. Most sites say it's an Anglo-Saxon surname most common in Devonshire. https://www.your-family-history.com/surname/d/dimond/

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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #6 on: September 12, 2020, 05:51:13 PM »
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  • Because most "Jєωιѕн" surnames are just German surnames. In the US you can usually tell a Jєω because he has "-mann" or "-berg" at the end of his name, but these would also be common with non-Jєωιѕн Germans.

    Also, on another note, I looked up Dimond and found nothing saying it comes from Diamond. Most sites say it's an Anglo-Saxon surname most common in Devonshire. https://www.your-family-history.com/surname/d/dimond/
    According to Ancestry.co.uk the name Dimond is a variant of Diamond. While it does say that the name Dimond can be of Irish (I think) origin too, when used as the name of the crystal it is Jєωιѕн. Neil Diamond is certainly a Jєω. And while many Jєωιѕн names end in -man or -stein or similar endings, it is not at all true to say that all or even most do.
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    We'd have to ask one of our many resident Jєω experts to weigh in on this, but this evidence all looks pretty good to me. I will grant, though, that there is an Irish variant of the name that seems to be Gaelic, as you mentioned, and I can't say for sure which version the Dimonds got their name from, but I don't see any way to dismiss the Jєω possibility either.

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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #7 on: September 12, 2020, 05:53:03 PM »
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  • Here is a nice smiling photograph of Neil Diamond:
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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #8 on: September 12, 2020, 06:00:11 PM »
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  • If this man were a Jєω, it'd be the biggest surprise of my life:



    Most Jєωιѕн surnames were originally German ones that we now associate largely with Jєωs. Considering his birth name was Frederick, I'd wager German ancestry before Jєωιѕн.i
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    From Ancestry.com: The page for Dimond redirects you to the page for Diamond, where it says that Diamond is a "Jєωιѕн (αѕнкenαzιc): Americanized form of a Jєωιѕн surname, spelled in various ways ..."
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    From Yahoo Answers: "Jєωιѕн question: Is Dimond a Jєωιѕн surname?" Answer: "Yes. Their names are often combined with precious metals and 'berg' or 'stein' or 'man'. For instance, Goldstein, Silverberg, Feldman. Be vigiliant."
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    From Familypedia: "The surname Diamond originates from many origins, including Africa, and Israel. If your pigmentation is white and your last name is Diamond, than you are 95% probable of a Jєω"

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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #9 on: September 12, 2020, 06:09:47 PM »
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    From Ancestry.com: The page for Dimond redirects you to the page for Diamond, where it says that Diamond is a "Jєωιѕн (αѕнкenαzιc): Americanized form of a Jєωιѕн surname, spelled in various ways ..."
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    From Yahoo Answers: "Jєωιѕн question: Is Dimond a Jєωιѕн surname?" Answer: "Yes. Their names are often combined with precious metals and 'berg' or 'stein' or 'man'. For instance, Goldstein, Silverberg, Feldman. Be vigiliant."
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    From Familypedia: "The surname Diamond originates from many origins, including Africa, and Israel. If your pigmentation is white and your last name is Diamond, than you are 95% probable of a Jєω"
    Let's finish the Ancestry.com quote
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    Jєωιѕн (αѕнкenαzιc): Americanized form of a Jєωιѕн surname, spelled in various ways, derived from modern German Diamant, Demant ‘diamond’, or Yiddish dime(n)t, going back to Middle High German diemant (via Latin from Greek adamas ‘unconquerable’, genitive adamantos, a reference to the hardness of the stone). The name is mostly ornamental, one of the many αѕнкenαzιc surnames based on mineral names, though in some cases it may have been adopted by a Jєωeler. English: variant of Dayman (see Day). Forms with the excrescent d are not found before the 17th century; they are at least in part the result of folk etymology. Irish: Anglicized form of Gaelic Ó Diamáin ‘descendant of Diamán’, earlier Díomá or Déamán, a diminutive of Díoma, itself a pet form of Diarmaid (see McDermott).
    So it can have Jєωιѕн, German, English or Irish origins. A ginger man named Frederick Dimond whose nose doesn't look Jєωιѕн could very easily fit into any of the other three categories. 

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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #10 on: September 12, 2020, 06:12:43 PM »
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  • I have heard it claimed before that the Dimond brothers were Jєωιѕн converts but I have never seen any evidence other than their name. I have never seen them talk about their upbringing. The most I have heard is that their parents did not practice any religion, so they may have been atheist Jєωs. In searching online for info on this topic I found a video of Ibranyi talking about his time at the monastery, which I will watch before I go to bed tonight.
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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #11 on: September 12, 2020, 06:25:31 PM »
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  • I have a cousin whose maiden name is Diamond, and if she were Jєωιѕн, it would be news to everyone, including her.

    As someone else pointed out, Jєωιѕн names are very often comprised of a precious metal (or even a non-precious metal, e.g. the German Eisen, "iron") and a Germanic suffix such as -man(n), -berg, or -stein, or I would add, something found in nature, such as a tree or plant (e.g., Rosenblum "rose flower" or just Baum "tree"). If I understand correctly, Jєωs did not have proper surnames, so when they were forced to adopt them, they had to pick something.  Possibly the metal names and nature names just "caught on" among them.

    I have also had to wonder about Portuguese names that are also the words for various kinds of trees, e.g., Pereira "pear tree" or Oliveira "olive tree".  Could those originally have been Sephardic names?

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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #12 on: September 12, 2020, 06:26:04 PM »
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    We'd have to ask one of our many resident Jєω experts to weigh in on this, but this evidence all looks pretty good to me. ... I don't see any way to dismiss the Jєω possibility either.
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    “the Jєω possibility”?

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    The Dimonds are Jєω converts (?)

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    The Dimond brothers are Jєωs
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    You don’t make any distinction between Jєωιѕн religion and Jєωιѕн heritage?
    What if they have Jєωιѕн heritage?
    Are they, or are they not Catholic?
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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #13 on: September 12, 2020, 06:40:05 PM »
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  • Let's finish the Ancestry.com quoteSo it can have Jєωιѕн, German, English or Irish origins. A ginger man named Frederick Dimond whose nose doesn't look Jєωιѕн could very easily fit into any of the other three categories.
    Many Jєωs have naturally red hair.

    But I agree, Frederick Dimond doesn't look at all Jєωιѕн.  But then again, neither do Goldie Hawn or Gwyneth Paltrow, both half-Jєωιѕн, and I suppose, you can see something around the mouth if you know what to look for, a kind of prominence that's hard to describe but I know it when I see it.

    He actually kind of reminds me of a young Ron Howard.  Richie Cunningham as an uber-sedevacantist monk!  Who would have ever thought it?

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    Re: Dimond Brothers are Jєωs
    « Reply #14 on: September 12, 2020, 08:34:19 PM »
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  • Dimonds have some good info but because they are among the libelers of Card Rampolla, i vote marrano... :cowboy:
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