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Offline LVCIVS

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Differences between SSPV Seminary and +Sanborn Seminary
« on: February 07, 2024, 03:42:13 PM »
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    • Hello, 

    I would like to hear the differences between the Immaculate Heart Seminary (SSPV) and the Most Holy Trinity Seminary (+Sanborn) based on formation, education, etc. Also, I'm guessing the priestly duties are like being a missionary priests like those of the Resistance. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    Let me know what you have learned about them. Thank you and God Bless.
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    Re: Differences between SSPV Seminary and +Sanborn Seminary
    « Reply #1 on: February 07, 2024, 07:33:36 PM »
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    • You may have seen this already but posting it just in case you haven’t.

    https://youtube.com/@mhtseminary?si=VhWD9BWUeThjCQDF

    https://youtube.com/@mhtseminarycoursesonline?si=Y8KpDOpgJUVvtaFs

    The first link has some playlists talking about their seminary. The second link is videos of the actual classes. If I could go I’d go to MHT seminary, but Im only saying that because I like Bp. Sanborn. I watch the course videos a lot. 

    Unfortunately I’m ineligible for the priesthood(born out of wedlock. Devastating to learn that. Probably biggest heartache after not being able to enjoy the holidays with a Catholic family. Im a convert), but it sounds like you or someone you know is and I will pray for you. I wish you all the best. 

    Also, I know I overshared a bit there but I said it because I want you to know that if I could do it I’d trade places with you if I could. Im sure there are others on here who can answer your questions better. God bless you. 
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    Re: Differences between SSPV Seminary and +Sanborn Seminary
    « Reply #2 on: February 07, 2024, 08:12:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: rosarytrad on February 07, 2024, 07:33:36 PM
    Unfortunately I’m ineligible for the priesthood(born out of wedlock. Devastating to learn that
    What trad community would enforce that impediment during emergency times as we are currently experiencing?

    I call selective enforcement of caon law since other canons are wholly disregarded because "epikeia".
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    Re: Differences between SSPV Seminary and +Sanborn Seminary
    « Reply #3 on: February 07, 2024, 10:52:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: ElwinRansom1970 on February 07, 2024, 08:12:17 PM
    What trad community would enforce that impediment during emergency times as we are currently experiencing?

    I call selective enforcement of caon law since other canons are wholly disregarded because "epikeia".
    ElwinRansom1970, I’ll send you a PM. I don’t want to make this thread about me. 👍
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    Re: Differences between SSPV Seminary and +Sanborn Seminary
    « Reply #4 on: February 11, 2024, 06:52:42 PM »
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    • SSPVer here. I can not speak for MHTS but figure that many others can. If you go to the Immaculate Heart Seminary, you will have to become a member of the Congregation of St. Pius V. That's the most important difference. CSPV priests live communally and travel to the missions by means of car or airplane. MHTS only lasts seven years whereas IHS lasts eight years. In terms of courseload, they should be mostly the same. IHS' staff is mostly, if not exclusively, "new guard" priests, whereas I am to understand that MHTS has a few "old guard" priests left. 
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    Re: Differences between SSPV Seminary and +Sanborn Seminary
    « Reply #5 on: February 14, 2024, 10:19:42 PM »
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    • Just want to state something I learned re: eligibility to the priesthood of born out of wedlock for anyone who might’ve read my previous comment on this thread. In a video on MHT seminary’s Yt page Bp. Sanborn says that men born out of wedlock discerning the priesthood in the current crisis in the Church are not ineligible to apply to their seminary.

    I assumed incorrectly… And we all know what assuming does… (I haven’t until just this week looked into this more in depth. When I first learned of this typical ineligibility I stopped looking at MHT seminary stuff because it was bittersweet and resigned myself to not to torture myself. Although I still have been watching the lectures of their courses.)

    He mentions several other things for any young man discerning the vocation to consider before applying. But none of their bare minimum standards for a potential priest are hard and fast requirements. Just want to make sure people see this.

    I should’ve done a little more digging before I made my comment. I hope this helps someone else out there! God bless you discerning young men. The Church needs good priests!

    Here’s the video where he talks about admissions: https://youtu.be/-ktViSMjvkc?si=D2eWdaTxUFO_beQo
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    Re: Differences between SSPV Seminary and +Sanborn Seminary
    « Reply #6 on: February 15, 2024, 08:11:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: rosarytrad on February 14, 2024, 10:19:42 PM
    Just want to state something I learned re: eligibility to the priesthood of born out of wedlock for anyone who might’ve read my previous comment on this thread. In a video on MHT seminary’s Yt page Bp. Sanborn says that men born out of wedlock discerning the priesthood in the current crisis in the Church are not ineligible to apply to their seminary.

    I assumed incorrectly… And we all know what assuming does… (I haven’t until just this week looked into this more in depth. When I first learned of this typical ineligibility I stopped looking at MHT seminary stuff because it was bittersweet and resigned myself to not to torture myself. Although I still have been watching the lectures of their courses.)

    He mentions several other things for any young man discerning the vocation to consider before applying. But none of their bare minimum standards for a potential priest are hard and fast requirements. Just want to make sure people see this.

    I should’ve done a little more digging before I made my comment. I hope this helps someone else out there! God bless you discerning young men. The Church needs good priests!

    Here’s the video where he talks about admissions: https://youtu.be/-ktViSMjvkc?si=D2eWdaTxUFO_beQo

    In regular times, this impediment could be dispensed by the diocesan bishop decision, as far as know.

    I have not read about any particular case, but I imagine that the bishops did not dismiss promising young man just because they were born out of wedlock.
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    Re: Differences between SSPV Seminary and +Sanborn Seminary
    « Reply #7 on: February 15, 2024, 09:15:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: Giovanni Berto on February 15, 2024, 08:11:50 AM
    In regular times, this impediment could be dispensed by the diocesan bishop decision, as far as know.

    I have not read about any particular case, but I imagine that the bishops did not dismiss promising young man just because they were born out of wedlock.

    I'm pretty sure that the dispensation became pretty much a formality and automatically granted right before Vatican II, for the same reasons indicated by Bishop Sanborn why they also typically grant it.
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