The problem is, we can't all be right, so one of us has to yield. I've yielded the most of anyone here so far.
That only means that in the issues you have yielded in you were presented with arguments that were substantial enough to make you reconsider, so hopefully, arguments that were sound.
I admitted that I was wrong about NFP which I used to defend; I have changed my mind on the una cuм. I used to be more liberal in many ways. I constantly apologize and correct myself for my slip-ups, of which there have been many. But I've never seen you even ONCE admit that you are wrong on even the slightest point. This is very telling.
Telling? What does it tell you? That I'm prideful? People who WANT my positions to be incorrect will of course jump to that conclusion.
Here's what it
should tell you - what I have been
trying to tell you all along: I believe I hold the correct position.
Besides, I have been wrong before.
Of course, if you are right on BoD and limbo, you have no reason to correct yourself.
That's true, and if I'm wrong, which I do not believe, PLEASE DON'T LET ME GO TO HELL. Don't just SAY I'm wrong, SHOW me HOW - with solid irrefutable argument.
The truth is irrefutable - nobody can deny this.
But at the very least someone like you should be able to see that baptism of desire and limbo are not heresies. Then we would have a disagreement but still be on the same side.
You know why I believe they are heresies, but your only responses seem to be either "they were never condemned" which you know very well does not refute it, or "you misunderstand the definitions", but you fail to demonstrate how this may be the case.
There are a multitude of definitions involved, and you know which ones they are by now. I have specifically asked you to look them up and examine them so that you can point out the supposed error.
You also avoid important and highly relevant questions like "Is it even possible to deny or contradict a dogmatic definition, and if so how would this be manifested?"
Don't you see that this is exactly the right question for the maters we are dealing with? But you avoid it!
Until then, though I want to be friendly, and am sympathetic towards you for some reason -- while most Feeneyites are offputting to me
Interesting comment... Thank you for your kindness Mike, it's my intention to reciprocate as well. It's my intention to be kind or at least charitable to everyone I have discussions/debates with. When people are dishonest, kindness gives way to charity (just rebukes) and people may mistake this for unkindness, when it is really no such thing.
-- I see you as potentially steering people in the wrong direction, and must say what I think is true.
Ditto.