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Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
« on: July 29, 2022, 07:12:01 AM »
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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #1 on: July 29, 2022, 07:49:38 AM »
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  • We'd need a real pope by 2028 then for the Dimonds to maintain credibility (although IMO they already lost a lot with the whole JPII-Antichrist stuff).


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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #2 on: July 29, 2022, 08:29:24 AM »
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  • We'd need a real pope by 2028 then for the Dimonds to maintain credibility (although IMO they already lost a lot with the whole JPII-Antichrist stuff).
    You need to watch the video first of all, they state that much like when there was a vacancy of the throne of David which was filled eternally by the Incarnation of Christ, so will the vacant see of St. Peter be filled by Him when He returns in glory. The 70 years is a parallel to the 70 years of the Babylonian captivity. It may be precisely 70 years, or it may be 68 years, or it may be 72 years; the point being that the end of our captivity is to come soon.

    One could argue that they're putting a timeline on the day of Doom which only the Father Himself knows (Matt. 24:36, Luke 12:46); but, Christ Himself said those with the Faith will see the signs (Luke 21:25-26, 30-31) when that time approaches, and that it will be sudden (Matt. 24:37-39). And the signs are obvious just looking at the state of the world and the Church today.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #3 on: July 29, 2022, 09:43:59 AM »
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  • You need to watch the video first of all, they state that much like when there was a vacancy of the throne of David which was filled eternally by the Incarnation of Christ, so will the vacant see of St. Peter be filled by Him when He returns in glory. The 70 years is a parallel to the 70 years of the Babylonian captivity. It may be precisely 70 years, or it may be 68 years, or it may be 72 years; the point being that the end of our captivity is to come soon.

    One could argue that they're putting a timeline on the day of Doom which only the Father Himself knows (Matt. 24:36, Luke 12:46); but, Christ Himself said those with the Faith will see the signs (Luke 21:25-26, 30-31) when that time approaches, and that it will be sudden (Matt. 24:37-39). And the signs are obvious just looking at the state of the world and the Church today.
    He said that's the most likely scenario, not the only one, so he'd still be vindicated if a true pope was elected in 2028.

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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #4 on: July 29, 2022, 01:34:16 PM »
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  • 1969 (new mass) ---> 2029 = 70 years.  This also lines up with the 100 years of Fatima request (1929 Sr Lucy apparition).  And (in my opinion) 2029 would also be the end of satan's 100 years of power.

    This explains why the elites are scurrying around like possessed rodents...their time is running out...


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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #5 on: July 29, 2022, 01:57:02 PM »
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  • 1969 (new mass) ---> 2029 = 70 years.  This also lines up with the 100 years of Fatima request (1929 Sr Lucy apparition).  And (in my opinion) 2029 would also be the end of satan's 100 years of power.

    This explains why the elites are scurrying around like possessed rodents...their time is running out...
    Something BIG is going to happen around that time (Catholic Restoration, Antichrist, Second Coming, or Great Monarch, take your pick). If you've noticed, even the WEF and Davos have shortened their timeline for their Agenda. Their Master knows his time is short. So buckle up everyone, things are going to get even worse very soon.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #6 on: July 29, 2022, 02:06:50 PM »
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  • 1969 (new mass) ---> 2029 = 70 years.  This also lines up with the 100 years of Fatima request (1929 Sr Lucy apparition).  And (in my opinion) 2029 would also be the end of satan's 100 years of power.

    This explains why the elites are scurrying around like possessed rodents...their time is running out...
    That'd be 2039. 1958 (John XXVIII elected) + 70 years gives 2028, which is pretty close considering it's not like this thing would be over and done with within a year.

    One way it might add up is that 2028 is when the last antipope dies, so the "captivity lasted 70 years", but the new election drags into 2029.

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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #7 on: July 29, 2022, 02:23:45 PM »
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    That'd be 2039. 1958 (John XXVIII elected) + 70 years gives 2028, which is pretty close considering it's not like this thing would be over and done with within a year.

    One way it might add up is that 2028 is when the last antipope dies, so the "captivity lasted 70 years", but the new election drags into 2029.
    Woops, you're right.  It makes sense that there has to be a connection with John23rd...

    Also, Our Lord predicted that it would take the popes "as long as it took the french kings" to consecrate russia, as it did to consecrate france (100 years exactly).  So this implies that a good pope would need a bit of time after election to clean house and organize the consecration.  Thus, a 2028 election, with a 2029 consecration seems likely.


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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #8 on: July 29, 2022, 07:04:48 PM »
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  • There are a couple of odd things about the end of this decade. First of all, Our Lord's public life began in the year 30 and lasted (about) 3.5 years. The 2,000-year anniversary of the beginning of His public life will be in the year 2030. Furthermore, the reign of the antichrist is described in the Apocalypse to be 3.5 years, with a curious insistence on that number inasmuch as it is described as "times, time and half a time" (time meaning one year), or also 1,280 days, and it is mentioned repeatedly. So the length of the reign of the antichrist will be similar in length to the public life of Christ.

    It seems possible that the antichrist's public life, or reign, will begin on the 2,000 year anniversary of the beginning of Christ's public life, i.e. the year 2030.

    And what is the Great Reset world communist agenda called? Why, Agenda 2030, of all things, because the WEF wants world communism up and running BY 2030, meaning they give themselves that as a deadline. Why does it have a deadline anyway? Who knows, but the selection of that year sure gives me the creeps.

    Then again, it's not healthy to get too caught up in this sort of speculation. For all we know, the world might last another 2,000 years just as it did before the coming of Christ. People thought the collapse of the Roman Empire was the end of the world too, especially with the invasion by pagan barbarians from northern Europe, and look what happened -- it was actually the beginning of the glorious world of the Middle Ages. The decay we see around us could also be planting the seeds of a great renewal in a similar way.

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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #9 on: July 29, 2022, 07:46:24 PM »
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  • There are a couple of odd things about the end of this decade. First of all, Our Lord's public life began in the year 30 and lasted (about) 3.5 years. The 2,000-year anniversary of the beginning of His public life will be in the year 2030. Furthermore, the reign of the antichrist is described in the Apocalypse to be 3.5 years, with a curious insistence on that number inasmuch as it is described as "times, time and half a time" (time meaning one year), or also 1,280 days, and it is mentioned repeatedly. So the length of the reign of the antichrist will be similar in length to the public life of Christ.

    It seems possible that the antichrist's public life, or reign, will begin on the 2,000 year anniversary of the beginning of Christ's public life, i.e. the year 2030.

    And what is the Great Reset world communist agenda called? Why, Agenda 2030, of all things, because the WEF wants world communism up and running BY 2030, meaning they give themselves that as a deadline. Why does it have a deadline anyway? Who knows, but the selection of that year sure gives me the creeps.
    You are noticing the exact same thing I've noticed about this timeline for the past year. It lines up with that anniversary, complete with this "Beast system" being implemented by 2030. It's so coincidental that it's difficult to define it as anything other than providential. If the Antichrist was born in the year 2000, he would be the exact same age as Our Lord when He began His public ministry for 3.5 years.

    It was Bl. Hildegard who prophesied that the Antichrist would ape Christ in such a way that the fundamentals of his doctrine will almost mirror that of Christianity, excepting that he will reject Christ as a fraud and loose everyone from the "oppression" of the Commandments. To quote:

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    His mother will seldom let any one see him, and yet by magic art, she will manage to gain the love of the people for him. He will be raised at different secret places and will be kept in seclusion until full-grown. When he has grown to full manhood he will publicly announce a hostile doctrine on religion. He will lure and attract the people to himself by granting them complete exemption from the observance of all divine and ecclesiastical commandments, by forgiving them their sins and requiring of them only their belief in his divinity. He will spurn and reject baptism and the gospel. He will open his mouth to preach contradiction. He will say, `Jesus of Nazareth is not the son of God, only a deceiver who gave himself out as God; and the Church instituted by him is only superstition'. The true Christ has come in his person. He will say, `I am the Saviour of the world'. Especially will he try to convince the Jєωs that he is the Messiah sent by God, and the Jєωs will accept him as such. His doctrine of faith will be taken from the Jєωιѕн religion and seemingly will not differ much from the fundamental doctrine of Christianity, for he will teach that there is one God who created the world, who is omniscient and knows the thoughts of man and is just, who rewards the obeyers of his commands and the trespassers he chastises, who raises all from the dead in due time. This God has spoken through Moses and the Prophets, therefore the precepts of the Mosaic laws are to be kept, especially circuмcision and keeping the Sabbath, yet by his moral laws he will try to reverse all order on earth. Therefore he is called in Holy Writ the `Lawless One'. He will think that he can change time and laws. He will discard all laws, morals and religious principles, to draw the world to himself. He will grant entire freedom from the commandments of God and the Church and permit everyone to live as his passions dictate. By doing so he hopes to be acknowledged by the people as deliverer from the yoke, and as the cause of prosperity in the world. Religion he will endeavor to make convenient. He will say that you need not fast and embitter your life by renunciation, as the people of former times did when they had no sense of God's goodness. It will suffice to love God. He will let the people feast to their heart's content so that they will pity the unfortunate people of former centuries. He will preach free love and tear asunder family ties. He will scorn everything holy, and he will ridicule all graces of the Church with devilish mockery. He will condemn humility and foster proud and gruesome dogmas. He will tear down that which God has taught in the Old and New Testament and maintain sin and vice are not sin and vice. Briefly he will declare the road to Hell is the way to Heaven.

    Think about just what is to come to the entire world in the next few years: famine, war, disease, death, on a massive scale. People will be clamoring for a "savior" from these things. Already we see many people turning to spiritualism, and false doctrines, to fulfill the void left by two centuries of naturalism and materialism. The time is ripe for Antichrist to appear with a doctrine that will fulfill the spiritual wants of the many, and their temporal needs as well, all the while permitting man to feed his desires to his heart's content (no guilt, no shame, complete narcissism).
    Much of what she predicts of his doctrine is already manifest in the new world religion of the Novus Ordo, which itself is poised to seek out a Messiah to come, rather than accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah who was, is, and is to come again.

    That is why I believe that these pawns of Satan in Davos, the Gates Foundation, WEF, WHO, the NWO political powers, etc. are all being set up to fail purposely to create a power vacuum wherein Antichrist can reign as a sort of "god emperor".


    Then again, it's not healthy to get too caught up in this sort of speculation. For all we know, the world might last another 2,000 years just as it did before the coming of Christ. People thought the collapse of the Roman Empire was the end of the world too, especially with the invasion by pagan barbarians from northern Europe, and look what happened -- it was actually the beginning of the glorious world of the Middle Ages. The decay we see around us could also be planting the seeds of a great renewal in a similar way.
    It depends on the person, really. I personally have a much better focus on my spiritual life thinking that the end is nigh. As long as one doesn't get too caught up in their own personal opinion of what is to come, to the point of being uncharitable, I don't see a problem with it.

    Frs. Berry and Kramer, men far more learned on the Apocalypse than anyone on this forum, both came to the conclusion that there will be a period of peace following the death of Antichrist for a few centuries before the final battle of Gog and Magog right before Christ returns. It's altogether possible that the much-touted Great Monarch prophecy is not meant to precede Antichrist, but, to predict what is to follow Antichrist with the flourishing of the Church.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #11 on: July 29, 2022, 08:02:10 PM »
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    There are a couple of odd things about the end of this decade. First of all, Our Lord's public life began in the year 30 and lasted (about) 3.5 years. The 2,000-year anniversary of the beginning of His public life will be in the year 2030.
    Actually, AD time would start with year 0, so Our Lord's public life would start in...year 2029 (gulp, another pointer towards this year).



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    Furthermore, the reign of the antichrist is described in the Apocalypse to be 3.5 years, with a curious insistence on that number inasmuch as it is described as "times, time and half a time" (time meaning one year), or also 1,280 days, and it is mentioned repeatedly. So the length of the reign of the antichrist will be similar in length to the public life of Christ.
    Yes, very true.

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    And what is the Great Reset world communist agenda called? Why, Agenda 2030, of all things, because the WEF wants world communism up and running BY 2030, meaning they give themselves that as a deadline. Why does it have a deadline anyway? Who knows, but the selection of that year sure gives me the creeps.
    Yes, Agenda 2030 sounds better and easier to remember than 2029 but your point is well taken.

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    Then again, it's not healthy to get too caught up in this sort of speculation. For all we know, the world might last another 2,000 years just as it did before the coming of Christ. People thought the collapse of the Roman Empire was the end of the world too, especially with the invasion by pagan barbarians from northern Europe, and look what happened -- it was actually the beginning of the glorious world of the Middle Ages. The decay we see around us could also be planting the seeds of a great renewal in a similar way.
    Very true.  I'm of the mindset that (just like the days of the Tower of Babel) when the devil thinks he will win, God will step in and say "not yet".  In this case, I believe that God will allow Our Lady to have Her victory, as foretold.  And our days are a precursor to the times of antichrist (which are still, not far off).  Our Lady of Fatima did not promise a long peace but only a "certain period".

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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #12 on: July 29, 2022, 09:30:17 PM »
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  • 1969 (new mass) ---> 2029 = 70 years.

    Perhaps a calculator is in order... :fryingpan:

    [Hint: 1969-2029 is only SIXTY years.]
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #13 on: July 29, 2022, 10:28:19 PM »
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  • Right, my bad.  1958 (J23) - 2028 makes more sense, with the pope having at least a year to do the consecration in 2029.  

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    Re: Did the Bible predict 70 years without a Pope? Video
    « Reply #14 on: July 29, 2022, 10:33:52 PM »
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  • Right, my bad.  1958 (J23) - 2028 makes more sense, with the pope having at least a year to do the consecration in 2029.

    No biggie.

    One could also argue 1968-2038 is the window.  In 1968 the vernacular canons were unleashed -- see QTV by PHO.  IF they were largely invalid (i.e., most languages invalid but some still valid), that could be your starting point.  Frankly, I would prefer 1958 over 1968, if only to shave 10 years off this unspeakably awful period.  Still, God alone knows and His ways are not our ways.  Hold fast.  Godspeed.
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