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Did St. Cyril really say this?
« on: March 27, 2018, 06:29:47 PM »
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  • I came across this text being used to promote communion in the hand. I had heard some arguments and reasoning against this text of St. Cyril, but at face value it does seem a bit troublesome. There are many writings attributed to St. Cyril and lots of them a bit sketchy or suspect of being written by someone else. It would seem possible that a heretic could have written this passage and attributed it to St. Cyril, but the Real Presence of the Eucharist was not to be questioned by the Reformers for another 1300 years (when the practice was promoted).

    Wondering what forum members think...

    The Catechetical Lectures of St. Cyril of Jerusalem lecture 23
    21. In approaching therefore, come not with thy wrists extended, or thy fingers spread; but make thy left hand a throne for the fight, as for that which is to receive a King. And having hollowed thy palm, receive the Body of Christ, saying over it, Amen. So then after having carefully hollowed thine eyes by the touch of the Holy Body, partake of it; giving heed lest thou lose any portion thereof; for whatever thou losest, is evidently a loss to thee as it were from one of thine own members. For tell me, if any one gave thee grains of gold, wouldest thou not hold them with all carefulness, being on thy guard against losing any of them, and suffering loss? Wilt thou not then much more carefully keep watch, that not a crumb fall from thee of what is more precious than gold and precious stones?

    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    Re: Did St. Cyril really say this?
    « Reply #1 on: March 27, 2018, 06:44:05 PM »
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  • Michael Davies confirms that Communion in the hand did take place but in a very different manner than the Novus Ordos are doing today. Actually, a bit stranger. Davies explains that they would smear the Blood of Christ in their sensory organs like the eyes and that excessive kissing of the Host took place due to Communion in the hand being allowed in the first centuries. It seems that the Church had corrected this practice by the time of St. Thomas Aquinas in order to prevent abuses and decided that only what is consecrated could touch the Host.

    From Davies:

    Theodoret, bishop of Cyrrhus in Syria, who confirms that the excess of kissing the Host was already in use: "One should consider how during the sacred mysteries we take the limbs of the Spouse, kiss them, embrace them and apply them to our eyes."14 

    This was no isolated extravagance. The practice of kissing the Host, made possible by its reception in the hand and leading to a distorted theology of the Real Presence, persisted at least down to the end of the 8th century. Our witness is St. John of Damascus [675-749]:" Let us receive the Body of the crucified, and applying it to our eyes, our lips, and forehead, let us partake of the Divine burning coal."15

    http://sspx.org/sites/sspx/files/communion-in-the-hand-and-other-similiar-frauds-michael-davies.pdf
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...