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Offline holysoulsacademy

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Did PJPII Believe in the Theotokos?
« on: April 14, 2014, 09:50:40 AM »
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    I found this quote online when researching about one of the Martyr's, and I thought it sounded quite odd.  
    Someone used it as their tagline, along with many others and is attributing it to PJPII:
    "From Mary we learn to surrender to God's will in all things.
    From Mary we learn to trust when all hope is gone.
    From Mary we learn to trust her Son and Christ the Son of God."


    Am I reading it wrong?  
    Does he make a distinction between her Son and Christ the Son of God?
    Or Perhaps my headache is just having me read into things.
    Can someone help clarify?

    p.s.  BTW, I did some research on the source of this quote and on the Vatican website they have it worded as: "From Mary, we learn to love Christ, her Son and the Son of God." Subtle differences, either most people who quote him are wrong or the Curia has been busy scrubbing clean internet traces where they can.


    Offline Mama ChaCha

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    Did PJPII Believe in the Theotokos?
    « Reply #1 on: April 14, 2014, 11:57:19 AM »
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  • Seems to me that he is saying that we should love Christ in all His capacities, which we learn to do from Our Lady. Very seldomly do I agree with JPII, but on this point I believe he is correct in asserting that we learn to love God by the example of Our Lady.
    Matthew 6:34
    " Be not therefore solicitous for to morrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof."


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    Did PJPII Believe in the Theotokos?
    « Reply #2 on: April 14, 2014, 01:30:06 PM »
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  • I'd probably want to see the original text, not a translation. I'm no fan of Wojtyla but I do believe in being fair. I think the statement in regards to hope is most troubling, as it makes it sound like she, who is a model of all virtue, lost hope at one point.