Author Topic: Did John XXIII say this (Read 1011 times)

Pelly · « **on:** October 28, 2013, 03:07:43 PM »

I've read that John XXIII said during his opening speak at VII that the Old Covenant is a falsified history of a Frankensteined and abridged ancient tradition and its' lost nation. Did he really say something like that?

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #1 on:** October 28, 2013, 03:23:09 PM »

Unlikely.

It's on record that John XXIII addressed Jєωs as his brother and that he was Joseph coming to set them free.

And he removed the "perfidy" from the Good Friday services.

Nadir · « **Reply #2 on:** October 28, 2013, 03:25:03 PM »

Pelly, do a search using these words: John XXIII opening speech Vatican II, and you'll be able to read it for yourself.

IllyricumSacrum · « **Reply #3 on:** October 28, 2013, 03:28:18 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

Unlikely.

It's on record that John XXIII addressed Jєωs as his brother and that he was Joseph coming to set them free.

And he removed the "perfidy" from the Good Friday services.

I've read that Montini and Bernadin also made similar pronouncements.

TKGS · « **Reply #4 on:** October 28, 2013, 03:40:50 PM »

Try reading the opening address yourself and find out:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070808180613/http:/www.rc.net/rcchurch/vatican2/j23open.txt

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #5 on:** October 28, 2013, 03:45:23 PM »

Quote from: IllyricuмSacrum

Quote from: Capt McQuigg
Unlikely.

It's on record that John XXIII addressed Jєωs as his brother and that he was Joseph coming to set them free.

And he removed the "perfidy" from the Good Friday services.

I've read that Montini and Bernadin also made similar pronouncements.

Montini was a true Fabian character.

Bernardin was really just a degenerate puke. Which reminds me? Who made Bernardin a cardinal?

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 28, 2013, 04:16:37 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

Quote from: IllyricuмSacrum
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
Unlikely.

It's on record that John XXIII addressed Jєωs as his brother and that he was Joseph coming to set them free.

And he removed the "perfidy" from the Good Friday services.

I've read that Montini and Bernadin also made similar pronouncements.

Montini was a true Fabian character.

Bernardin was really just a degenerate puke. Which reminds me? Who made Bernardin a cardinal?

JPII

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2013, 09:15:38 PM »

JP II made Mahony, Bernardin and George and Law cardinals for the U.S.?

I guess JP II wanted to really neutralize the church in the U.S.

On this aspect alone, the intentions of JPII should be questioned.

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2013, 09:41:09 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

On this aspect alone, the intentions of JPII should be questioned.

No can do: Wojtyla got rid of questioning, too, so he's in the clear.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2013, 10:08:35 PM »

I was on a forum in which everyone lavished praise on JP2 right after his death. I pointed out that at best he was the worst Pope in the history of the Church, citing stats on the decline of faith. Their response was that it was all the bishops' fault, the big bad disobedient bishops. I got so fed up that I looked up every single active US bishop in the Catholic Almanac. I found what I expected, that at the time of his death, 93% of all active US bishops had been appointed by Santo Subito John Paul II the Great ... due to his agonizingly protracted so-called "papacy". I attached the spreadsheet of my findings. And I pointed out that it's why the Church prays for deceased popes, because they're responsible for EVERYTHING that happens under their watch, and that the crimes of these bishops are his crimes.

You could hear the crickets chirping. Not a single response. Because there was nothing left to say.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2013, 10:11:26 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

On this aspect alone, the intentions of JPII should be questioned.

On this aspect alone, his very papacy should be questioned.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #11 on:** October 29, 2013, 12:36:06 AM »

As much as people love to slam Fr. Malachi Martin, I recall the book he wrote "Windswept House," the priest that was officiating at that satanic ceremony in North Carolina (I think) at the same time one was taking place in Rome at Saint Paul's, was none other than "Cardinal" Bernadine.

I also recall hearing that the poor priest, a friend of Fr. Martin, Fr. Kunz, had damning information regarding "Cardinal" Bernadine, which is why he was ritualistically murdered by the satanists.