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Re: Parish saved from closure through the TLM!
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2019, 05:02:18 PM »
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  • Read the whole story: under lifesitenews.  This St. Mary's of Rhode Island received $50,000 GRANT.  Federal gov't.  The people gave $ and for every $1 Feds give $3.  but that was years ago.  I have seen some that for every $1. feds give $10!

    Read:  FSSP, indult/New Order have on valid priest and therefore no valid sacraments. 

    Read:  Grant states: money for "going back in time on order to move forward".  Forward to what!?!

    The Grants of the Feds have gone to many, new order parishes.  Here in AZ in Prescott, Sacred Heart got about the same about.  My hometown parish of St. Peter's and Paul in Huntington, IN got $$ as well.  That newspaper article stated $ to also go for vestments and altar linen.

    And the motive for all this is to "keep" parishioners who want to come under the church. councilor.

    So, who owns the churches/parishes of the New Order?  Federal does and Federal is who the so-called priest/clergy anti up to!  New Order does not care for souls.  The clergy can bring no life to the souls.  So, they serve the gov't just as in started in Europe during the wars.  Communism moving right along.

    Lifesitenews is New Order.  If they use headlines to support the New Order cause, be careful who you support!


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    Re: Parish saved from closure through the TLM!
    « Reply #16 on: April 05, 2019, 05:03:06 PM »
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  • FSSP have NO valid priest. correction


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    Re: Parish saved from closure through the TLM!
    « Reply #17 on: April 11, 2019, 03:27:04 AM »
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  • There are many ways we can see that the new rite is marginally valid. Fr. Marie's article contains the shortest one, Father said the Roman Church must always have a valid episcopal lineage, but that would not be the case if an invalid rite has been used for 50 years now. So, not invalid.

    Whenever, like in the OP, the TLM returns to mainstream parishes, many 1000s of souls will benefit. They may not benefit immediately, but they will benefit in the long run. If Priests begin offering the TLM, they will learn by experience what the Holy Mass really is. Holy Mass cannot be separated from the Faith. The Faith teaches us Holy Mass is a true propitiatory Sacrifice offered for the living and the dead. The TLM itself will teach this to Priests who say it sincerely. Many Priests do not know better, they think the new mass is the one the Church wants them to say. This is one parish. Imagine if one diocese began to offer the TLM only. In Bishop Castro De Meyer's time, that happened. It can still happen. When the Mass returns, the Faith will return also, in those who are sincerely seeking for it. Holy Mass forms us in the Faith. The two need not be separated.

    Here's a survey of faithful who often assist at the TLM compared to those who attend the NOM: https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2019/02/lex-orandi-lex-credendi-traditional.html#more

    Results

    Survey Question                        TLM       TLM samples         NOM        Data Source

    1. Approve contraception             2%            1,773                   89%         Pew Research 2016 (Sept 28)
    2. Approve abortion                      1%            1,769                   51%         Pew Research 2018 (Oct 15)
    3. Weekly Mass attendance        99%            1,763                   22%         CARA 2017 (Apr 11, 2018)
    4. Approve gαy marriage               2%            1,759                   67%         Daily Wire (July 2, 2017)
    5. Income % donated                    6%            1,702                  1.2%         Catholicphilly.com  (May 17, 2013)
                                                                Protestants                   2.5%        Relevant Magazine (March 8, 2016)
               All Christians during the Great Depression                   3.3%         Relevant Magazine (March 8, 2016)
    6. Annual Confession
     and Weekly Mass                     98%            1,753                   25%         CARA 2014 (Feb 16)
    7. Fertility Rate                             6.0               1,085*                  2.3           Pew Research 2015 (May 12)

    It is very likely Priests who regularly offer the TLM likewise are much closer to orthodox and traditional belief in doctrine and dogma.
    "We wish also to make amends for the insults to which Your Vicar on earth and Your Priests are everywhere subjected [above all by schismatic sedevacantists - Nishant Xavier], for the profanation, by conscious neglect or Terrible Acts of Sacrilege, of the very Sacrament of Your Divine Love; and lastly for the Public Crimes of Nations who resist the Rights and The Teaching Authority of the Church which You have founded." - Act of Reparation to the Sacred Heart of Lord Jesus.

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    Re: Parish saved from closure through the TLM!
    « Reply #18 on: April 11, 2019, 08:41:07 PM »
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  • Chapter 12 of Daniel states: The Sacrifice of the Mass will come to an end.  Know your prophecies!

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    Re: Parish saved from closure through the TLM!
    « Reply #19 on: April 11, 2019, 08:44:19 PM »
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  • Again, the article you read, is not saving New Order.  It is a hoax.  The priest are not valid and 1962 missal is new order indult.  A hoax of the Freemasons of the New Order, trying to gain more people, keep them and their $$.