Author Topic: Denied the sacrament of confession (Read 1711 times)

soulguard · « **on:** May 21, 2014, 02:24:19 PM »

For the past few months, ever since I became convinced that the new ordination rite was invalid ( or doubtful ), I have made confessions to two priests who were ordained in the old rite. These are old priests. One of them is a retired novus ordo bishop, the other is still a priest. This is the novus ordo church I speak of. The parish is as liberal as if there is no tomorrow.

Recently I found that the one who is still a priest does not think that a sin is a sin. He says I am being scrupulous and sometimes he has not absolved me properly, but made up his own words to the sacrament.

Today I was told by the house keeper for the retired bishop that he is not hearing confessions anymore. She said to go to the priests next door ( all new rite novus ordo ) for confessions if i want one. I had said to her in the past that I go to the bishop because he is ordained in the old rite and that this was the reason that I went to him in the first place. But ignoring my words, and dismissing my concerns she sent me away in his name. I am disgusted by these dangerous false Catholics impersonating the true church of Christ, who deny me the sacraments and send me elsewhere knowing that there is no where else I can reasonably go. Now to make a confession I need to travel a long distance to an SSPX church. In the past the novus ordo priests in this town have also refused to be a spiritual director for me, telling me to go else where for this. I suspect the reason for this is because I am not a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and because I have been promoting the Latin mass whenever I have spoke with them. I know there is nothing CI members can do to resolve this but I wanted to make this post about the callousness of the novus ordo that lies beneath the surface, because i have today finally exhausted their patience. Now I have no reason whatsoever to go to the purported Catholic church in this town for anything.

TKGS · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2014, 02:42:35 PM »

Not one thing you said above surprises me. While there are a few elderly Catholic priests that have the faith, most have clearly bought the Modernist program.

You need to find a traditional priest not formally affiliated with the Conciliar sect for absolution.

soulguard · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2014, 02:48:26 PM »

I have also found out just now that the priest who says a sin is not a sin wrongfully heard my confessions in the past because he did not have jurisdiction, observe:

"Delegated jurisdiction is that which is granted by an ecclesiastical superior to one who does not possess it by virtue of his office. The need of jurisdiction for administering this sacrament is usually expressed by saying that a priest must have "faculties" to hear confession (see FACULTIES). Hence it is that a priest visiting in a diocese other than his own cannot hear confession without special authorization from the bishop. Every priest, however, can absolve anyone who is at the point of death, because under those circuмstances the Church gives all priests jurisdiction. As the bishop grants jurisdiction, he can also limit it by "reserving" certain cases (see RESERVATION) and he can even withdraw it entirely. "

The priest was still incardinated into another dioscese, in another country!
( and I was not in danger of death)

What a fool I feel like! I had been making confessions to people with no power to forgive me, and all of the novus ordo laity who saw me do this never said a word. It is blatently obvious to me now especially, that the novus ordo church priests bishops etc, are IMPOSTERS USURPERS FAKES

Phyllo · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2014, 05:49:04 PM »

Quote from: soulguard

I have also found out just now that the priest who says a sin is not a sin wrongfully heard my confessions in the past because he did not have jurisdiction, observe:

"Delegated jurisdiction is that which is granted by an ecclesiastical superior to one who does not possess it by virtue of his office. The need of jurisdiction for administering this sacrament is usually expressed by saying that a priest must have "faculties" to hear confession (see FACULTIES). Hence it is that a priest visiting in a diocese other than his own cannot hear confession without special authorization from the bishop. Every priest, however, can absolve anyone who is at the point of death, because under those circuмstances the Church gives all priests jurisdiction. As the bishop grants jurisdiction, he can also limit it by "reserving" certain cases (see RESERVATION) and he can even withdraw it entirely. "

The priest was still incardinated into another dioscese, in another country!
( and I was not in danger of death)

What a fool I feel like! I had been making confessions to people with no power to forgive me, and all of the novus ordo laity who saw me do this never said a word. It is blatently obvious to me now especially, that the novus ordo church priests bishops etc, are IMPOSTERS USURPERS FAKES

The priest doesn't forgive you God does. You thought you were confessing to a good priest but you believe now that you weren't. God knows that you tried to make a good confession and I don't think that He(God) will hold it against you .

Don't forget---the priest does not forgive sins. God listened and God will forgive.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2014, 06:28:13 PM »

Quote from: soulguard

I have also found out just now that the priest who says a sin is not a sin wrongfully heard my confessions in the past because he did not have jurisdiction, observe:

"Delegated jurisdiction is that which is granted by an ecclesiastical superior to one who does not possess it by virtue of his office. The need of jurisdiction for administering this sacrament is usually expressed by saying that a priest must have "faculties" to hear confession (see FACULTIES). Hence it is that a priest visiting in a diocese other than his own cannot hear confession without special authorization from the bishop. Every priest, however, can absolve anyone who is at the point of death, because under those circuмstances the Church gives all priests jurisdiction. As the bishop grants jurisdiction, he can also limit it by "reserving" certain cases (see RESERVATION) and he can even withdraw it entirely. "

The priest was still incardinated into another dioscese, in another country!
( and I was not in danger of death)

What a fool I feel like! I had been making confessions to people with no power to forgive me, and all of the novus ordo laity who saw me do this never said a word. It is blatently obvious to me now especially, that the novus ordo church priests bishops etc, are IMPOSTERS USURPERS FAKES

If the priest was valid, your confession was valid. The Church supplies the lacking jurisdiction in cases of common error and for other reasons. Though the reason to stay away from N.O. priests is that they are usually doubtfully priests, and the Church does not supply orders.

Luker · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2014, 06:45:45 PM »

Soulguard, I thought you were going to the SSPX now? Just go see a SSPX priest for confession and leave the NO alone, problem solved.

holysoulsacademy · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2014, 07:38:14 PM »

Quote from: soulguard

For the past few months, ever since I became convinced that the new ordination rite was invalid ( or doubtful ), I have made confessions to two priests who were ordained in the old rite. These are old priests. One of them is a retired novus ordo bishop, the other is still a priest. This is the novus ordo church I speak of. The parish is as liberal as if there is no tomorrow.

Recently I found that the one who is still a priest does not think that a sin is a sin. He says I am being scrupulous and sometimes he has not absolved me properly, but made up his own words to the sacrament.

Today I was told by the house keeper for the retired bishop that he is not hearing confessions anymore. She said to go to the priests next door ( all new rite novus ordo ) for confessions if i want one. I had said to her in the past that I go to the bishop because he is ordained in the old rite and that this was the reason that I went to him in the first place. But ignoring my words, and dismissing my concerns she sent me away in his name. I am disgusted by these dangerous false Catholics impersonating the true church of Christ, who deny me the sacraments and send me elsewhere knowing that there is no where else I can reasonably go. Now to make a confession I need to travel a long distance to an SSPX church. In the past the novus ordo priests in this town have also refused to be a spiritual director for me, telling me to go else where for this. I suspect the reason for this is because I am not a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and because I have been promoting the Latin mass whenever I have spoke with them. I know there is nothing CI members can do to resolve this but I wanted to make this post about the callousness of the novus ordo that lies beneath the surface, because i have today finally exhausted their patience. Now I have no reason whatsoever to go to the purported Catholic church in this town for anything.

NO priests even some FSSP priests have a problem with trads who go outside ED approved latin mass and show their disapproval through withholding of sacraments.

In our Indult parish our new pastor kept delaying the baptism of our daughter (for one reason or another) and it was because he knew we attended SSPX mass centers. He even invited me and my husband down for an interview and quizzed us on the faith saying he just wanted to make sure we knew our catechism. I can guarantee you nobody else I have asked in that church has ever been subject to such. Meanwhile they allowed a non-parishioner (meaning someone who never attended Mass at the church ever) to have their child baptized because one of the parishioners was a neighbor and was asked to be godmother.
We eventually found another place to have our child baptized.
Now we see the SSPX behaving the same way.

Sacraments are a right of the baptized, and as long as all the necessary conditions are met, the priest is ordained by God to serve them with these sacraments as they were given by God (not the priest) as a means of receiving grace so we may obtain heaven.

This country club mentality (in the case of trads) and the dance club mentality (in the NO) is a disgrace to their vocations!

poche · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2014, 12:13:51 AM »

Quote from: holysoulsacademy

Quote from: soulguard
For the past few months, ever since I became convinced that the new ordination rite was invalid ( or doubtful ), I have made confessions to two priests who were ordained in the old rite. These are old priests. One of them is a retired novus ordo bishop, the other is still a priest. This is the novus ordo church I speak of. The parish is as liberal as if there is no tomorrow.

Recently I found that the one who is still a priest does not think that a sin is a sin. He says I am being scrupulous and sometimes he has not absolved me properly, but made up his own words to the sacrament.

Today I was told by the house keeper for the retired bishop that he is not hearing confessions anymore. She said to go to the priests next door ( all new rite novus ordo ) for confessions if i want one. I had said to her in the past that I go to the bishop because he is ordained in the old rite and that this was the reason that I went to him in the first place. But ignoring my words, and dismissing my concerns she sent me away in his name. I am disgusted by these dangerous false Catholics impersonating the true church of Christ, who deny me the sacraments and send me elsewhere knowing that there is no where else I can reasonably go. Now to make a confession I need to travel a long distance to an SSPX church. In the past the novus ordo priests in this town have also refused to be a spiritual director for me, telling me to go else where for this. I suspect the reason for this is because I am not a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and because I have been promoting the Latin mass whenever I have spoke with them. I know there is nothing CI members can do to resolve this but I wanted to make this post about the callousness of the novus ordo that lies beneath the surface, because i have today finally exhausted their patience. Now I have no reason whatsoever to go to the purported Catholic church in this town for anything.

NO priests even some FSSP priests have a problem with trads who go outside ED approved latin mass and show their disapproval through withholding of sacraments.

In our Indult parish our new pastor kept delaying the baptism of our daughter (for one reason or another) and it was because he knew we attended SSPX mass centers. He even invited me and my husband down for an interview and quizzed us on the faith saying he just wanted to make sure we knew our catechism. I can guarantee you nobody else I have asked in that church has ever been subject to such. Meanwhile they allowed a non-parishioner (meaning someone who never attended Mass at the church ever) to have their child baptized because one of the parishioners was a neighbor and was asked to be godmother.
We eventually found another place to have our child baptized.
Now we see the SSPX behaving the same way.

Sacraments are a right of the baptized, and as long as all the necessary conditions are met, the priest is ordained by God to serve them with these sacraments as they were given by God (not the priest) as a means of receiving grace so we may obtain heaven.

This country club mentality (in the case of trads) and the dance club mentality (in the NO) is a disgrace to their vocations!

You are beginning to sound like Pope Francis.

poche · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2014, 12:26:51 AM »

Quote from: soulguard

I have also found out just now that the priest who says a sin is not a sin wrongfully heard my confessions in the past because he did not have jurisdiction, observe:

"Delegated jurisdiction is that which is granted by an ecclesiastical superior to one who does not possess it by virtue of his office. The need of jurisdiction for administering this sacrament is usually expressed by saying that a priest must have "faculties" to hear confession (see FACULTIES). Hence it is that a priest visiting in a diocese other than his own cannot hear confession without special authorization from the bishop. Every priest, however, can absolve anyone who is at the point of death, because under those circuмstances the Church gives all priests jurisdiction. As the bishop grants jurisdiction, he can also limit it by "reserving" certain cases (see RESERVATION) and he can even withdraw it entirely. "

The priest was still incardinated into another dioscese, in another country!
( and I was not in danger of death)

What a fool I feel like! I had been making confessions to people with no power to forgive me, and all of the novus ordo laity who saw me do this never said a word. It is blatently obvious to me now especially, that the novus ordo church priests bishops etc, are IMPOSTERS USURPERS FAKES

What you are saying is not correct. A priest who has faculties in one diocese has teh faculties everywhere unless they were revoked by an ordinary of a particular place. If the ordinary of the place where you live has not revoked the faculties of that priest then he can still hear confessions.
From the code of Canon Law; 967:2
§2. Those who possess the faculty of hearing confessions habitually whether by virtue of office or by virtue of the grant of an ordinary of the place of incardination or of the place in which they have a domicile can exercise that faculty everywhere unless the local ordinary has denied it in a particular case, without prejudice to the prescripts of ⇒ can. 974, §§2 and 3.

crossbro · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2014, 12:37:55 AM »

A NO priest asked me during my confession why I did not go down to receive Communion. I told him because my conscience was telling me I could not due to mortal sin.

This priest said, "Don't let your sins have control over you, go down and receive anyway."

A lot of these NO priests were telling me after my confession to say my Act of Contrition in the Church after leaving the confessional.

I found I was getting a lot of psychological advise and one priest advised me to seek medical advise. What I felt I really needed was fist to come flying through that screen. A blunt admonishment for offending God. Instead I was getting the "Oh don't worry, God loves you routine."

How about telling me the truth ? How about reminding me that hell is a lake of fire ?

poche · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2014, 02:30:48 AM »

Quote from: crossbro

A NO priest asked me during my confession why I did not go down to receive Communion. I told him because my conscience was telling me I could not due to mortal sin.

This priest said, "Don't let your sins have control over you, go down and receive anyway."

A lot of these NO priests were telling me after my confession to say my Act of Contrition in the Church after leaving the confessional.

I found I was getting a lot of psychological advise and one priest advised me to seek medical advise. What I felt I really needed was fist to come flying through that screen. A blunt admonishment for offending God. Instead I was getting the "Oh don't worry, God loves you routine."

How about telling me the truth ? How about reminding me that hell is a lake of fire ?

There is an interdiction if you physically assault a priest or a religous. Father Gobbi had some very good advice about these types of situations;
Love your priests
Pray for your priests
When they spout off nonsense, don't pay any attention.
Remember, when you are in confession, the priest is in the person of Christ. The absolution which you recieve is recognized in Heaven by God, himself. The frustration that you feel may well be a temptation of the Devil to cause you to avoid this sacrament of spiritual healing.

crossbro · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2014, 02:41:43 AM »

Quote from: poche

Quote from: crossbro

A NO priest asked me during my confession why I did not go down to receive Communion. I told him because my conscience was telling me I could not due to mortal sin.

This priest said, "Don't let your sins have control over you, go down and receive anyway."

A lot of these NO priests were telling me after my confession to say my Act of Contrition in the Church after leaving the confessional.

I found I was getting a lot of psychological advise and one priest advised me to seek medical advise. What I felt I really needed was fist to come flying through that screen. A blunt admonishment for offending God. Instead I was getting the "Oh don't worry, God loves you routine."

How about telling me the truth ? How about reminding me that hell is a lake of fire ?

There is an interdiction if you physically assault a priest or a religous. Father Gobbi had some very good advice about these types of situations;
Love your priests
Pray for your priests
When they spout off nonsense, don't pay any attention.
Remember, when you are in confession, the priest is in the person of Christ. The absolution which you recieve is recognized in Heaven by God, himself. The frustration that you feel may well be a temptation of the Devil to cause you to avoid this sacrament of spiritual healing.

Oh, but poche you misread or misunderstood my statement- I was meaning the priest should punch me through the screen, not the other way around- LOL. If you re-read the sentence you will see that is the only meaning that is in context.

Secondly, the priest who told me to go down and receive Communion against my conscience when in a state of mortal sin is a false preacher and a liar. In the Bible it says a liar is an agent of satan not Christ. Regardless of his intent, that priest represents the Church and has zero right to tell me what the Church teaches otherwise.

poche · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2014, 02:52:36 AM »

Quote from: crossbro

Quote from: poche
Quote from: crossbro

A NO priest asked me during my confession why I did not go down to receive Communion. I told him because my conscience was telling me I could not due to mortal sin.

This priest said, "Don't let your sins have control over you, go down and receive anyway."

A lot of these NO priests were telling me after my confession to say my Act of Contrition in the Church after leaving the confessional.

I found I was getting a lot of psychological advise and one priest advised me to seek medical advise. What I felt I really needed was fist to come flying through that screen. A blunt admonishment for offending God. Instead I was getting the "Oh don't worry, God loves you routine."

How about telling me the truth ? How about reminding me that hell is a lake of fire ?

There is an interdiction if you physically assault a priest or a religous. Father Gobbi had some very good advice about these types of situations;
Love your priests
Pray for your priests
When they spout off nonsense, don't pay any attention.
Remember, when you are in confession, the priest is in the person of Christ. The absolution which you recieve is recognized in Heaven by God, himself. The frustration that you feel may well be a temptation of the Devil to cause you to avoid this sacrament of spiritual healing.

Oh, but poche you misread or misunderstood my statement- I was meaning the priest should punch me through the screen, not the other way around- LOL. If you re-read the sentence you will see that is the only meaning that is in context.

Secondly, the priest who told me to go down and receive Communion against my conscience when in a state of mortal sin is a false preacher and a liar. In the Bible it says a liar is an agent of satan not Christ. Regardless of his intent, that priest represents the Church and has zero right to tell me what the Church teaches otherwise.

Love your priests
Pray for your priests
When they spout off nonsense, don't pay any attention.

soulguard · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2014, 07:26:38 AM »

Quote from: crossbro

Quote from: poche
Quote from: crossbro

A NO priest asked me during my confession why I did not go down to receive Communion. I told him because my conscience was telling me I could not due to mortal sin.

This priest said, "Don't let your sins have control over you, go down and receive anyway."

A lot of these NO priests were telling me after my confession to say my Act of Contrition in the Church after leaving the confessional.

I found I was getting a lot of psychological advise and one priest advised me to seek medical advise. What I felt I really needed was fist to come flying through that screen. A blunt admonishment for offending God. Instead I was getting the "Oh don't worry, God loves you routine."

How about telling me the truth ? How about reminding me that hell is a lake of fire ?

There is an interdiction if you physically assault a priest or a religous. Father Gobbi had some very good advice about these types of situations;
Love your priests
Pray for your priests
When they spout off nonsense, don't pay any attention.
Remember, when you are in confession, the priest is in the person of Christ. The absolution which you recieve is recognized in Heaven by God, himself. The frustration that you feel may well be a temptation of the Devil to cause you to avoid this sacrament of spiritual healing.

Oh, but poche you misread or misunderstood my statement- I was meaning the priest should punch me through the screen, not the other way around- LOL. If you re-read the sentence you will see that is the only meaning that is in context.

Secondly, the priest who told me to go down and receive Communion against my conscience when in a state of mortal sin is a false preacher and a liar. In the Bible it says a liar is an agent of satan not Christ. Regardless of his intent, that priest represents the Church and has zero right to tell me what the Church teaches otherwise.

You need to start going to a traditional SSPX church to get mass and confessions.
If you dont go to the oaisis you will stay in this dryness and be scorched by ur sins.
Those 400 masses u went to were a sign of dedication, but u should use that dedication for the REAL church not the novus ordo. The novus ordo corrups people. I phathom that we even curse ourselves with habits of sin by going to novus ordo mass. It is a sacrilege and a gathering of heretics. not a way to serve God.

Remember the burning fires of hell and purgatory and wear the brown scapular ( get invested by a valid priest properly) so u dont go to hell if u die in grace.

crossbro · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2014, 09:57:48 AM »

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Love your priests
Pray for your priests
When they spout off nonsense, don't pay any attention.

Really, dude ?

In this instance the priest should have been reported and his ability to hear confessions permanently suspended. In fact, I would argue he should be defrocked.

The fact is if I had reported it no action would have been taken against him and I would have been treated with contempt and scorn and we all know it.