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Title: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: rowenwdse on March 25, 2024, 02:03:21 PM
Dear All,

I would like to share a 4 page PDF I wrote demonstrating that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation.

Please Click this Link: https://mothermary.website/The-times-we-are-living-in.pdf (https://mothermary.website/The-times-we-are-living-in.pdf)

And also Please Click this Link: https://mothermary.website/june-13-2029.html (https://mothermary.website/june-13-2029.html)

I want to say that I will mail 3-days-of-darkness candles – that I had blessed by a priest on Candlemas day – the highest blessing a candle can get in the Catholic Church – absolutely for free. I only ask for $7 for shipping – that are available now.

Note: It is my personal opinion that the 3- days-of-darkness is not mere private revelation, but Divine Revelation for the reason that it is in the Gospel of Saint Matthew in Chapter 24 - Verse 29.

Thanks and Kind Regards in +Jesus, Mary and Joseph,
Roger
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Marulus Fidelis on March 25, 2024, 02:48:24 PM
The three days of darkness, great monarch and related theories are a demonic deception.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkbKwWyDyZg
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Marulus Fidelis on March 25, 2024, 02:52:46 PM
Considering that you call Pope Pius IX of happy memory Blessed indicates you are Novus Ordo.

The Vatican II sect is an even bigger deception than the three days of darkness. It's not the Catholic Church but the prophesied end-times counter-church, the whore of Babylon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u02sNHRNLCk

This video has some great points on that topic.

Also, see why Vatican II is a new religion here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX97Qg4DIJU

Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Yeti on March 25, 2024, 03:37:09 PM
Quote from: rowenwdse on March 25, 2024, 02:03:21 PM
I would like to share a 4 page PDF I wrote demonstrating that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation.
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:facepalm:
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: MiracleOfTheSun on March 25, 2024, 03:53:55 PM
I wasn't familiar with the 100 year warning found in Genesis.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Ladislaus on March 25, 2024, 06:45:33 PM
Quote from: Marulus Fidelis on March 25, 2024, 02:48:24 PM
The three days of darkness, great monarch and related theories are a demonic deception.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkbKwWyDyZg

I listened to the first minute, but he really should not have conflated Garabandal (a diabolical deception) with the other 3 credible Catholic sources.  It's very dishonest to blend all those together.

And we certainly can't have an "optimistic" view of the future, an we now?  :laugh1:
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Ladislaus on March 25, 2024, 07:26:35 PM
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 25, 2024, 06:45:33 PM
I listened to the first minute, but he really should not have conflated Garabandal (a diabolical deception) with the other 3 credible Catholic sources.  It's very dishonest to blend all those together.

And we certainly can't have an "optimistic" view of the future, an we now?  :laugh1:

That video is a horrible mess, a disaster.  Legitimate Catholic sources for the 3 Days of Darkness stand, including Anna Maria Taigi and Marie Julie Jahenny.  He dismisses Taigi as "possibly" speaking of a metaphorical 3 days of darkness (but that to me seems unlikely) or possibly mistaken, and then does a dishonest hatchet-/smear- job on Jahenny (conflating things some blogger wrote about her with her actual words, and making absurd false accusations against her).  I've long said that 90% of the stuff attributed to Padre Pio is likely fake, and have long dismissed Garabandal as a diabolical fraud (source of the Illumination of Conscience and Great Warning fake prophecies), but amidst all this guy's chaff and nonsense, the credibility of the 3 Days' of Darkness stands.  Is it certain?  No.  But it also cannot be ruled out.  Naturally speaking, SOMEthing like that has to happen since the wicked are in total control of the world.  In any case, that was weak.

I haven't gotten to the Great Monarch stuff yet, but there's a long tradition of Great Monarch prophecy.

This guy seems to be just a Dimond-head (even imitating their style of delivering videos) attempting to justify the Dimond position that JP2 was THE Antichrist (which, IMO, borders on the absurd) and that Bergoglio is "Peter the Roman" and that the world will end after him.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: SimpleMan on March 25, 2024, 07:49:58 PM
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 25, 2024, 07:26:35 PM

This guy seems to be just a Dimond-head (even imitating their style of delivering videos) attempting to justify the Dimond position that JP2 was THE Antichrist (which, IMO, borders on the absurd) and that Bergoglio is "Peter the Roman" and that the world will end after him.


"Dimond-head" --- that's a good one!

That said, their video Creation and Miracles is excellent, and Michael comes across as very eloquent and intelligent, but not in an overbearing way.  Kind of reminded me of Ron Howard in young adulthood.

Not a fan of the Dimonds, just giving credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Mark 79 on March 25, 2024, 08:48:27 PM
Quote from: rowenwdse on March 25, 2024, 02:03:21 PM
Note: It is my personal opinion that the 3- days-of-darkness is not mere private revelation, but Divine Revelation for the reason that it is in the Gospel of Saint Matthew in Chapter 24 - Verse 29.

I think your personal opinion is wrong.

Matthew Chapter 24, including verse 29, regards the Second Coming.  Do you postulate 3 days of Darkness, immediately "and then" followed by the Second Coming? Such a premise begs credulity.

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29 And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be moved  30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all tribes of the earth mourn: and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with much power and majesty  [Matthew 24:29-30] 

Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Mark 79 on March 25, 2024, 08:54:07 PM
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 25, 2024, 07:26:35 PM
…dismissed Garabandal as a diabolical fraud (source of the Illumination of Conscience and Great Warning fake prophecies)…

Agree. It is indeed a diabolical temptation to hope for an unmistakeable "warning." As if we haven't been warned since we reached the age of reason??? The whole idea opposes the truth —> we all need to straighten up immediately, not be lulled into the complacency bred by a promise of a "warning."
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Matthew on March 26, 2024, 11:50:10 AM
I was taught that the Three Days of Darkness, on the Theological Grades of Certainty scale, is somewhere around "pious opinion" or "tolerated opinion" -- the lowest level there is.

So "part of Divine Revelation"? Ahhh, no.


The Theological Grades of Certainty
- "Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma"
by Ludwig Ott.

1. The highest degree of certainty appertains to the immediately revealed truths. The belief due to them is based on the authority of God Revealing (fides divina), and if the Church, through its teaching, vouches for the fact it a truth is contained in Revelation, one's certainty is then also based on the authority of the Infallible Teaching Authority of the Church (fides catholica). If Truths are defined by a solemn judgment of faith (definition) of the Pope or of a General Council, they are "de fide definita."
2. Catholic truths or Church doctrines, on which the infallible Teaching Authority of the Church has finally decided, are to be accepted with a faith which is based on the sole authority of the Church (fides ecclesiastica). These truths are as infallibly certain as dogmas proper.
3. A Teaching proximate to Faith (sententia fidei proxima) is a doctrine, which is regarded by theologians generally as a truth of Revelation, but which has not yet been finally promulgated as such by the Church.
4. A Teaching pertaining to the Faith, i.e., theologically certain (sententia ad fidem pertinens, i.e., theologice certa) is a doctrine, on which the Teaching Authority of the Church has not yet finally pronounced, but whose truth is guaranteed by its intrinsic connection with the doctrine of revelation (theological conclusions).
5. Common Teaching (sententia communis) is doctrine, which in itself belongs to the field of free opinions, but which is accepted by theologians generally.
6. Theological opinions of lesser grades of certainty are called probable, more probable, well-founded (sententia probabilis, probabilior, bene fundata). Those which are regarded as being in agreement with the consciousness of Faith of the Church are called pious opinions (sententia pia). The least degree of certainty is possessed by the tolerated opinion (opinio tolerata), which is only weakly founded, but which is tolerated by the Church.

Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Matthew on March 26, 2024, 11:56:18 AM
The Three Days of Darkness is cousins with the Rapture. They both have the same traits: the Faithful will be protected by God, whisked away to escape the temporary earthly sufferings resulting from His judgment on the world.

Here's a summary (see the similarities?)

The Three Days of Darkness (Catholic version) says:
the Faithful will be safe and cozy in their houses while the devils wreak havoc in the world outside.

The Rapture (Protestant version) says:
the Faithful will be safe and cozy in Heaven while the devils wreak havoc in the world outside.

I'm not saying which one copied which one, but I refuse to believe these two ideas were independently developed TWICE. Someone copied someone.

But here's the problem -- THAT'S NOT HOW GOD WORKS. If you read your Scripture, your Church History, that is NOT God's way. Sufferings in this life are purifying, temporary, and God's greatest gift (the Cross). The good suffering with the bad is fine, because it works for their salvation, even while it punishes the wicked and accomplishes His justice.

Please, if your opinion differs from mine (not a crime), show me how I'm wrong. Show me all the times God has gone out of his way to spare the Elect from a chastisement or other earthly suffering on a grand scale. World War 1? World War 2? Vatican II? The Black Death? The French Revolution? The Russian Revolution? Countless wars throughout history?

And I'll anticipate your ONE comeback right now -- yes, God DOES protect *individuals* here and there, like the small rectory that survived the nuclear bomb at Nagasaki. God takes care of His own. But "taking care of them" doesn't always mean preventing their suffering and/or death. Death of the body is not the worst evil, for those destined for Eternal Life. Remember, God isn't overpowered by emotion. St. Paul said "For to me, to live is Christ; and to die is gain." (Phil. 1:21)
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: St Giles on March 26, 2024, 12:33:16 PM
Would the Passover be of any comparison, Matthew?
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Ladislaus on March 26, 2024, 12:43:21 PM
Quote from: Mark 79 on March 25, 2024, 08:54:07 PM
Agree. It is indeed a diabolical temptation to hope for an unmistakeable "warning." As if we haven't been warned since we reached the age of reason??? The whole idea opposes the truth —> we all need to straighten up immediately, not be lulled into the complacency bred by a promise of a "warning."

Yeah, the "warning" and "illumination of consciences" are exclusively from Garabandal ... which most serious Catholics have dismissed as a diabolical fraud.  Certainly there were preternatural phenomena there, so I don't think it was just a hoax, but actual diabolical activity.  Last I heard, Bishop Williamson believes in Garabandal still.  Several of their predictions/prophecies have been epic failures, so I can't understand why that alone wouldn't disqualify Garabandal from any credibility.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: ElwinRansom1970 on March 26, 2024, 01:06:23 PM
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 25, 2024, 07:26:35 PM
This guy seems to be just a Dimond-head
Is that a species of rattlesnake? 🤣
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 26, 2024, 01:30:21 PM
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The Three Days of Darkness (Catholic version) says:
the Faithful will be safe and cozy in their houses while the devils wreak havoc in the world outside.
No mention of the 3 Days ever said that all Catholics would be spared.  In fact, quite the contrary.  Many will be martyred, but some will be spared.  3/4 of the population will die, including much of The Faithful.  The remaining people will be Catholics and soon-to-convert peoples.

Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Cera on March 26, 2024, 01:39:07 PM
Quote from: rowenwdse on March 25, 2024, 02:03:21 PM
Dear All,

I would like to share a 4 page PDF I wrote demonstrating that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation.

Please Click this Link: https://mothermary.website/The-times-we-are-living-in.pdf (https://mothermary.website/The-times-we-are-living-in.pdf)

And also Please Click this Link: https://mothermary.website/june-13-2029.html (https://mothermary.website/june-13-2029.html)

I want to say that I will mail 3-days-of-darkness candles – that I had blessed by a priest on Candlemas day – the highest blessing a candle can get in the Catholic Church – absolutely for free. I only ask for $7 for shipping – that are available now.

Note: It is my personal opinion that the 3- days-of-darkness is not mere private revelation, but Divine Revelation for the reason that it is in the Gospel of Saint Matthew in Chapter 24 - Verse 29.

Thanks and Kind Regards in +Jesus, Mary and Joseph,
Roger
Nitpicking aside, I liked this part: (sorry for the formatting)

Matthew 24:29 "And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and
the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall
be moved"

And the Catholic Bible Douay-Rheims Catholic Commentary tells us: "Or flaming meteors resembling
stars." The flaming meteors would be from the tail of a comet and resemble shooting stars. 

Saints
Hildegard, Blessed Gaspar Del Bufala, Blessed Anna-Maria Taigi, Saint Padre Pio and Marie Julie
Jahenny (Victim Soul, Mystic and Stigmatist) all predict the 3-days-of-darkness caused by a comet.

From the book “The coming Chastisement” by Yves Dupont says “...the oxygen of the earth's
atmosphere will ignite the hydrogen of the comet's tail” and “Darkness: Caused by the thick dust and
gases of the comet's tail and possibly by the thick layers of clouds in the sky…”

Blessed Anna Maria Taigi prophesies that "There shall come over the whole earth an intense darkness
lasting three days and nights." The enemies of the Catholic Church and Catholic Religion will perish by
the powers of hell with the exception of a few which God will soon convert. With great emphasis

Blessed Anna Maria Taigi, Marie-Julie and Saint Padre Pio tell us to stay inside our homes - (Not to go
outside) - and keep the windows to our homes well covered. Both Marie-Julie and Saint Padre Pio tell
us that blessed candles [bees-wax] will stay lit during the 3-days-of-darkness. During the 3-days-of-
darkness Saint Padre Pio tells us to pray - especially the Rosary, read spiritual books, make acts of
Spiritual Communions - and again – not to go outside our home.
It is my personal opinion that the comet (the cosmic phenomenon) and 3-days-of-darkness will
happen in the 2nd half of 2029. And also from research I have done – it may(or could) happen on a
Thursday and last until the following Sunday. Blessed Pope Pius IX alludes to the same episode: he
sees the cosmic phenomenon that will follow the victory of the communist revolution. And after the
3-days-of-darkness it is my opinion the Consecration of Russia will properly be done.
Topic 3: The triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary
None of this is to cause fear, gloom and doom – but to inform the faithful and help them be prepared
for these possible future events and to have great joyful hope and anticipation of the Triumph of the
Immaculate Heart of Mary and the promised Period of Peace – which in my opinion will last 1, 2 or 3
generations - and that will happen just after the proper Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate
Heart of Mary is done. Blessed Anna Maria Taigi prophesies that “After the three days of darkness, St.
Peter and St. Paul, having come down from Heaven, will preach in the whole world and designate a
new Pope. A great light will flash from their bodies and will settle upon the cardinal who is to become
Pope.” It is most likely that this Pope will do the proper consecration of Russia to the Immaculate
Heart of Mary in which Our Lady said that in the end her Immaculate Heart will triumph and there will
be peace. During the Period of Peace – everyone will have a True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Matthew on March 26, 2024, 02:18:58 PM
Quote from: St Giles on March 26, 2024, 12:33:16 PM
Would the Passover be of any comparison, Matthew?

Good question.

I don't think so, because God picking a "Chosen People" and starting a Covenant or Testament with a given people was a one-time extraordinary occurrence, which hasn't been seen in human history before or since.

Moses and other prophets worked countless miracles on behalf of said Chosen People.

Countless large-scale miracles happened in the Old Testament on behalf of this Chosen People (from which Our Blessed Lord would receive His human Body) which the world hasn't seen before that time -- or since.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Matthew on March 26, 2024, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 26, 2024, 01:30:21 PM
No mention of the 3 Days ever said that all Catholics would be spared.  In fact, quite the contrary.  Many will be martyred, but some will be spared.  3/4 of the population will die, including much of The Faithful.  The remaining people will be Catholics and soon-to-convert peoples.

First, that would be the only way I'd believe in the 3 Days of Darkness at all -- with the conditions you list.

Second, any true sources on the topic would point that out.

Third, there is a distortion then in the common understanding of the "3 Days of Darkness" prophecy. Because if all you have to do is "get cozy" in your house -- lock the doors, close the windows, and light blessed candles and pray -- I'm not understanding how any significant % of the Faithful could die.

If "stuff" went down the way the prophecies say it will, how could bad guys simply go out and about their evil business and martyr various good people? Wouldn't they die instantly when they went outside, at the hands of the first devil they encountered? And why would those aforementioned "good people" be outside their homes, when they know darn well they should be hunkering down with blessed candles, etc.? Again, I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 26, 2024, 02:39:07 PM
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Second, any true sources on the topic would point that out.
I've read some that do.

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Third, there is a distortion then in the common understanding of the "3 Days of Darkness" prophecy.
Yes, there is.

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Because if all you have to do is "get cozy" in your house -- lock the doors, close the windows, and light blessed candles and pray -- I'm not understanding how any significant % of the Faithful could die.
The 3 Days of Darkness is God's Justice brought upon the evil men who are (at the time) persecuting Christians.  It also happens during the war between Good (Holy Monarch) and Evil (freemasonic forces).  The 3 Days is the end of the 5th Age, and the beginning of the period of peace.

The martyrs that are spoken of, are those who either die in battle or who die during a global persecution by freemasonic rulers of towns, cities, nations.

Obviously, those who are in prison, about to martyred, will not be spared by the 3 days.  But those in battle for God, probably will be spared, so they can win the war after.

Many say that the 3 Days of Darkness is caused by a giant comet, which blots out the sun's rays, and hurls fire, sulphur and space debris to earth.  As the comet comes near the earth, this causes the gravitational pull to be skewed, which causes volcanoes to erupt, earthquakes to occur and all kinds of oceanic tsunamis, hurricanes, etc.  God will destroy the earth not with water (as in Noah's day) but with fire.

Those Catholics (and others who will convert in the near future) who are spared by the 3 Days will be few.  As it is said many places, the earth will be like a giant graveyard, full of dead bodies and the living will envy the dead.  3/4 of the global population will die.

During the 3 Days, the devils are unleashed from hell and enact God's justice upon the evil, killing them, and also destroying all places wherein sacrilege, blasphemy and idolatry have taken place.  After the 3 Days, (much like after the Flood of Noah), there will be a sign in the sky (some say that will last til the end of the world) to signify that God has made peace with mankind. 

Then, slowly but surely, the Holy Pope and Holy Monarch will restore the Church and the entire world will become Catholic.  Then there will be a Catholic peace, the greatest Catholic era in history, until the rise of antichrist.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Ladislaus on March 26, 2024, 04:02:51 PM
Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 26, 2024, 02:39:07 PM
Then there will be a Catholic peace, the greatest Catholic era in history, until the rise of antichrist.

I've always wondered how this period of peace, which seems to be foretold to last about a generation, so 30 years or so, could give way so suddenly and so radically to Antichrist.  Indeed, the Antichrist's deception will have to be very great for that to happen.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Pax Vobis on March 27, 2024, 07:59:46 AM
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I've always wondered how this period of peace, which seems to be foretold to last about a generation, so 30 years or so, could give way so suddenly and so radically to Antichrist.  Indeed, the Antichrist's deception will have to be very great for that to happen.
If you compare it to V2 generation, then it'll be a little longer than 30 years, more like the 70 years of the Baby Boomer generation, who grew up at the beginning of V2.  They grew up when the Church was infiltrated, had little to no Faith foundation, and then lived 70 years in an era of the spiritual wild west.

Also, there's nothing to say that there isn't a period of transition both before and after the Period of Peace, properly speaking.

Example:  After the 3 Days of Darkness, when evil is finally defeated, there's going to be a time (a decade?) needed to rebuild society, to build churches, to convert people, to build farms, to get society back in working order.  Society has to be prepared for the Church's growth and Her influence.

Example2:  The end of the period of peace coincides with the death of the Holy Monarch.  This is when the Holy Roman Empire ends and is broken up into 10 kingdoms, ruled by 10 different kings.  I'm sure (from a practical order) that this transition works in the beginning, but after 5-10 years, each king would start ruling differently, which gradually would cause problems in society and the Church.  Then, after more time, these kings would start warring against each other.  And antichrist would come onto the scene as a talented general (let's say 16 yrs old).  But antichrist doesn't come to power until age 30, so the period of his advent is at least 15 years.

So, from the time of the Holy Monarch's death until the full, ruling of antichrist may be 20-30 years.  Or longer.  Such a change in society could happen over 3-4 decades, easily.  But it wouldn't happen over 5 years; that's just too short of a period for major changes in society, just from a practical order.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Cera on March 27, 2024, 10:36:22 AM
Quote from: Matthew on March 26, 2024, 02:22:35 PM

Third, there is a distortion then in the common understanding of the "3 Days of Darkness" prophecy. Because if all you have to do is "get cozy" in your house -- lock the doors, close the windows, and light blessed candles and pray -- I'm not understanding how any significant % of the Faithful could die.
Maybe the Passover explains or foreshadows how the homes of the faithful were passed over.

Also this from the OP which I've read in a book by Blessed Anna Maria Taigi.

Blessed Anna Maria Taigi prophesies that "There shall come over the whole earth an intense darknesslasting three days and nights." The enemies of the Catholic Church and Catholic Religion will perish bythe powers of hell with the exception of a few which God will soon convert.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: EWPJ on March 27, 2024, 09:36:50 PM
I think the 10 Kingdoms will actually take place before Antichrist and death of Great Monarch.  Basically one Holy Roman Empire but 10 Kingdoms.  1 Holy Roman Emperor (Great Monarch) and 10 Catholic Kings.  In Apocalypse (sorry don't remember exactly where) and elsewhere it talks about Antichrist conquering already set Kingdoms, so I would imagine there would be Catholic Kingdoms already in play before death of GM and advent of AC. 

The New Holy Roman Empire will be vast and would need divided up into Kingdoms for the general government of the new world and possibly further into Dukedoms, etc.  
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on March 28, 2024, 08:54:54 AM


Douay-Rheims Bible (https://biblehub.com/drbc/matthew/24.htm)
But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone. 
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Cera on April 01, 2024, 11:02:48 AM
Isiah 13: 9-13

9 Behold, the day of the Lord shall come, a cruel day, and full of indignation, and of wrath, and fury, to lay the land desolate, and to destroy the sinners thereof out of it.  10 For the stars of heaven, and their brightness shall not display their light: the sun shall be darkened in his rising, and the moon shall not shine with her light.

11 And I will visit the evils of the world, and against the wicked for their iniquity: and I will make the pride of infidels to cease, and will bring down the arrogancy of the mighty.  12 A man shall be more precious than gold, yea a man than the finest of gold.  13 For this I will trouble the heaven: and the earth shall be moved out of her place, for the indignation of the Lord of hosts, and for the day of his fierce wrath.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: SimpleMan on April 01, 2024, 11:43:03 AM
I try to temper my acceptance of the 3DOD with a certain skepticism, lest I fall into some kind of credulity akin to the Jehovah's Witnesses belief (now pretty much put through the shredder) that the world will be restored during the generation that saw the events of the First World War, or the more widespread fundamentalist belief in the "rapture".

I didn't do it for this reason, but the way my house is laid out, the master bedroom and bath are completely shut off from the rest of the house, and the room only has one large window which I have covered with plywood and duct tape, simply so that I will have a nearly-completely-dark room for sleeping.  (I actually got the idea from Elvis Presley and from the blackout curtains that you have in many hotels.)  In my dotage, I often take a nap during the day if I have been up very late or gotten up very early.  

This room, and the adjacent bath, would make the perfect "3DOD suite".  I have blessed beeswax candles in my home chapel, and abundant food and water that could be taken into the "3DOD Suite", enough for sustenance during those 72 hours with much to spare, as food and water supplies would no doubt be severely compromised in the days, weeks, and months afterwards.  And just to be on the safe side, I may fill up the gas tanks in both of my cars.  I also have a small solar panel array and keep two batteries charged at all times.  It's not at all clear that we would have grid electricity after the 3DOD --- if most of humanity has perished, who would run the power plants?  

Oh, and it would probably be a good idea to have a few of those big buckets (the kind they have at Lowe's, Home Depot, and Harbor Freight), with deodorizer and some water in them, for obvious reasons (don't forget the lids), as well as hygiene supplies.  I've got all of that too, I use the buckets for home tasks all the time, and they could easily be repurposed.  All of this is good preparation for any disaster, not just the 3DOD and its unpredictable aftermath.  No one can cover all eventualities, but you can do what you can do.

What the world would look like after the 3DOD, is anyone's guess.  I keep thinking of the Stephen King miniseries The Stand.  (My son is a big Stephen King buff, and when I told him about the 3DOD, he said it sounded like something King would write.)
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: SimpleMan on April 01, 2024, 12:36:50 PM
And one other thing about preparedness, the Mountain House meals (the ones that come freeze-dried in sealed packs) are mediocre at best, and very expensive for what you get.  I had gotten some of these in anticipation of going to a remote lodge with limited food service and a small town nearby with very few dining choices, but the trip didn't materialize (wanted to go do some skeet shooting, they have a range and I've never done that).  I finally broke on a couple of their breakfasts, and again, they were "just okay", nothing remarkable, and way over-priced.  The idea is to minimize pack weight for camping trips.  If that's not an issue, you can achieve the same preparedness goals much more cheaply with canned and packaged food.

Again, if the 3DOD do happen, getting food may be a challenge for some time.  I wouldn't expect electricity or other utilities to work for quite a while.  Assuming the infrastructure isn't destroyed, the survivors would have to figure out how to make it work.  If you have frozen food, expect it not to last long before it goes bad.  The vast bulk of my food storage is nonperishable and sealed items that don't require any special storage considerations.

And not to be morbid, but what happens to the remains of those who perish?  That alone would be a logistical nightmare, nature would eventually take care of it, but in the meantime, it wouldn't be a pleasant situation for the survivors to have to deal with.

Again, I keep coming back to The Stand.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Matthew on April 01, 2024, 01:21:50 PM
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 26, 2024, 04:02:51 PM
I've always wondered how this period of peace, which seems to be foretold to last about a generation, so 30 years or so, could give way so suddenly and so radically to Antichrist.  Indeed, the Antichrist's deception will have to be very great for that to happen.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised at all. The corruption of the best is the worst. And things move at a much faster pace now. You have nostalgia, and the human tendency to look backwards and year for "the flesh pots of Egypt" as it were. They will rebuild the Internet, curiosity will propel things forward, and before long you'll have TikTok again. 

I think 1 generation is almost exactly what it will take.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on April 01, 2024, 04:04:33 PM
Quote from: EWPJ on March 27, 2024, 09:36:50 PM
1 Holy Roman Emperor (Great Monarch) and 10 Catholic Kings. 
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Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 01, 2024, 05:00:26 PM

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I think the 10 Kingdoms will actually take place before Antichrist and death of Great Monarch.  Basically one Holy Roman Empire but 10 Kingdoms.  1 Holy Roman Emperor (Great Monarch) and 10 Catholic Kings.  In Apocalypse (sorry don't remember exactly where) and elsewhere it talks about Antichrist conquering already set Kingdoms, so I would imagine there would be Catholic Kingdoms already in play before death of GM and advent of AC.
Agree.  The Church Fathers are nearly unanimous that before Antichrist, there would be a third, and final, Holy Roman Empire.  And after the Holy Monarch's death, these 10 kingdoms would (due to human nature) would start becoming less unified, and this power-vacuum would create the perfect situation for an outsider (i.e. antichrist) to come onto the scene and take over.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Ladislaus on April 02, 2024, 12:01:44 AM
Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 01, 2024, 05:00:26 PM
Agree.  The Church Fathers are nearly unanimous that before Antichrist, there would be a third, and final, Holy Roman Empire.  And after the Holy Monarch's death, these 10 kingdoms would (due to human nature) would start becoming less unified, and this power-vacuum would create the perfect situation for an outsider (i.e. antichrist) to come onto the scene and take over.

Do you have citations about this?  That "New Rome" described in Revelation refers more to the whorish one, the new Babylon, which could rightly be seen as a reference to the revival of pagan Rome.
Title: Re: Demonstrations that the 3-days-of-darkness is actually part of Divine Revelation
Post by: Pax Vobis on April 02, 2024, 08:08:09 AM
Quotes from Saints, speaking of the a coming Great and Holy King and His Holy Roman Empire


St Methodius (4th cent)
"A day will come when the enemies of Christ [freemasons] will boast of having conquered the whole world.  They will say, "Christians cannot escape now!"  But a great King will arise to fight the enemies of God.  He will defeat them, and peace will be given to the world, and the Church will be freed from Her anxieties."

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St Remigius (5th cent), Bishop of France who baptized King Clovis and 3,000 followers into the Faith in 496 AD.
"Take notice that the Kingdom of France is predestined by God for the defense of the Roman Church which is the only true Church of Christ.  This kingdom shall someday be great among the kingdoms of the earth, and shall embrace all the limits of the Roman Empire, and shall submit all other kingdoms to its own scepter."

[France has never held this much territory under its power.  It has never embraced all the limits of the Roman Empire.  If this prophecy is true, it is yet to come.]


St Epheaem (5th cent):
"Then the Lord from his glorious heaven shall set up His peace.  And the kingdom of the Romans [Roman Empire] shall rise in place of this latter people, and establish its dominion upon the earth, even to its ends, and there shall be no one who will resist it.

After iniquity shall have multiplied, and all creatures have become defiled, then Divine Justice shall appear, and shall wholly destroy the people, and coming forth from perdition, the man of iniquity [anti-christ] shall be revealed upon the earth, the Seducer of men, and the distruber of the whole earth."


St Caesar of Arles, France (6th cent), Father of the Church, according to Jurgen's "Faith of the Early Fathers".  Presided over the 2nd Council of Orange in 529 AD against Pelagianism.
"When the entire world, and in a special way France - especially the provinces of the north, the east, and above all that of Lorraine and Champagne - shall have been laid waste by the greatest miseries and trials, then the provinces shall be comforted by a prince who had been exiled in his youth, and who shall recover the crown of the lilies.  This prince shall extend his dominion over the total universe.

At the same time, by the will of God, a most holy man shall receive the Papacy, who will be most perfect in every spiritual perfection.  This Pope will have with him the great Monarch, the most virtuous man, who shall be an eminent leader of the holy line of French Kings.  This great Monarch shall assist the Pope in the reformation of the whole earth.  Many nations and their princes that are living in error and impiety shall be converted and an admirable peace shall reign among men during many years, because the wrath of God shall be appeased through their repentence, penance and good works.  There will be one common law, only one faith, one baptism, one religion.

All nations shall recognize the Holy See of Rome, and shall pay homage to the Pope.  But after an extended period of time, fervor will cool, inquity will abound and moral corruption shall become worse than ever before, which shall bring upon mankind the last and worst persecution of anti-christ and the end of the world."


St Catald(us)  (7th cent):
"The Great King will wage war till he is 40 years of age.  He will assemble great armies and hurl back the tyrants out of his empire."


Rabanus Maurus  (9th cent), the most thorough chronicler of both prophecy and Oral Tradition in Western Europe.  He was abbot of the famous Benedictine Monastery in Fulda.  According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, "His fame as a teacher spread all over Europe.  He was the most learned man of his age.  In scripture and patristic knowledge, he had no equal and was thoroughly conversant in canon law and liturgy."

"Our principle Doctors [teachers of the Faith] agree in telling us, that towards the end of time one of the descendents of the kings of France shall reign over all the Roman Empire; and that he shall be the greatest of the French Monarchs and the last of his race.  After having governed well his kingdom, he shall go to Jerusalem and lay down his scepter and crown at Mt Olivet.  This shall be the conclusion of the Roman and Christian Empire."


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St Anslem  (11th cent), Doctor of the Church
"Certain Doctors [esteemed teachers of the Faith] truly say, that one of the kings of the Frankish Empire shall possess it in its entirety, which King shall live in the last time and shall be the greatest and last of kings.  Who after he shall have happily governed his Kingdom, shall come to Jerusalem and lay down his scepter and crown on Mt Olivet.  He shall be the last and consummate Emperor of the Roman and Christian Empire.

And immediately thereupon [after he lays down his scepter/crown], according to the sentence of Paul, they [esteemed teachers of the Faith] say antichrist will come."


St Hildegard (12th cent)
...There are so many prophecies from St Hildegard that you can look them up yourself.


St Thomas a'Becket (12th cent)
"A knight shall come from the West.  He shall capture Milan, Lombardy and the three Crowns [Italy].  He shall then sail to Cyprus and Famagoste and land at Jaffa [the oldest part of Tel Aviv, Israel], and reach Christ's grave, where he will fight.  Wars and wonders shall befall until the people believe in Christ toward the end of the world."


William D'Otrante (13th cent), an abbot of a monastery in Southern Italy
"The Great Monarch and the great pope will preceed anti-christ.  The nations will be at war for 4 years and a great part of the world will be destroyed.  The pope will go over the sea carrying the sign of Redemption on his forehead.  The Great Monarch will come to restore peace and the Pope will share the victory.  Peace will reign on earth."

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John of Vatiguerro (13th cent)
"Spoilation, pillaging and devastation of that most famous city which is the capital and mistress of France [Paris] will take place when the Church and the world are grievously troubled.  The Pope will change his residence and the Church will not be defended for 25 months or more, because during all that time, there will be no Pope in Rome, no emperor and no ruler in France.  But, after this, a young captive Prince shall recover the Crown of the Lilies and shall extend his dominion all over the world."

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St Vicent Ferrer (14th cent), known as the "Angel of Judgement" spoken of in the Apocalypse.
"Armies from the East, West and North will fight together in Italy and the Eagle [Great Monarch] shall capture the false king, and all things shall be made obedient unto him, and there shall be a new reformation in the world.


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Concerning the Fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of the anti-christ...


St Cyril of Jerusalem (4th cent):  Speaking of the fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of the anti-christ
"Since the true Christ is to come a second time, the adversary makes use of the expectation of the simple, and especially of those of the circuмcision [the joos]; and he brings in a certain man who is a magician, and who is quite expert in sorceries and enchantments of beguiling craftiness.  This one shall seize the power of the Roman Empire, and shall falsely style himself Christ.  By the name of Christ he shall deceive the joos, who are expecting the Annointed and he shall seduce the gentiles by his magical illusions.

This aforementioned anti-christ is to come when the times of the Roman Empire have been fulfilled and the end of the world is drawing near.  There shall rise up together ten kings of the Romans, reigning in different parts, perhaps, but all reigning at the same time.  After these there shall be an eleventh, the anti-christ, who by the evil power of magic [false miracles] shall seize upon the Roman Power.  Of the kings who reigned before him, 3 shall be humble and the remaining 7 he shall have as subjects under him [see book of Daniel].  He shall desplay against all men and especially against Christians, a spirit that is murderous and most cruel, merciless and wily.  For three years and six months only shall he be the perpetrator of such things.

Now these things we teach not of our own ingenuity...that this kingdom is that of the Romans has been the tradition of the Church's interpreters..."

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St John Chrysostom (4th cent):
"In the same way as those kingdoms which existed before the Roman Empire were destroyed (the Babylonian by the Persian, the Persian by the Greek, the Greek by the Roman), so will the Roman Empire be destroyed by anti-christ.  This will happen when the Roman Empire shall have been divided into 10 kingdoms [after the Holy Monarch dies]."

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St Jerome (4th cent)...in his commentary on the Book of Daniel:
"Therefore, let us state what all the Ecclesiastical writers [omnes scriptores ecclesiastici] have passed down [tradiderunt]: At the consummation of the world, when the Kingdom of the Romans has been destroyed, when ten kings shall have divided the territory of the Romans between themselves, an eleventh shall rise to a small kingdom, who when he shall have overcome three of the ten kings, i.e. the kingdom of the Egyptians, of the Africans and of the Ethiopians and consequently as we learn more manifestly - whom he shall have killed, the other seven kings shall submit their necks to the victor [the eleventh king].

Who is the eleventh king?  St Jerome explains:

"Nor do we think him to be the Devil or a demon, as some others do, but one of mankind in whom satan shall dwell totally...his mouth uttering great boasts, for he is the man of sin, the son of perdition, such that he will seat himself in the Temple as if he were God.  [Here Jerome is directly quoting from St Paul's description of the anti-christ in 2nd Thessalonians, 2:15]