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Offline Incredulous

Debunking Vigano’s Vote Scare
« on: October 31, 2024, 11:07:05 AM »
Interesting that a recent Catholic convert is able to discern & debunk Archbishop Vigano’s Trump endorsement… while the majority of trad Bishops remain silent.

The Remnant really has no shepherds.

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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Debunking Vigano’s Vote Scare
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2024, 11:18:36 AM »
What is his main argument?  That's a 1 hour video.

The pro-Trump is based on 4 years of facts.  The against-Trump argument is all based on assumptions. 

Example: 
Fact:  Trump said he wants to stop migrants.  He's said it over and over. 
Fact:  Trump built a large portion of the wall, but Congress stopped him from finishing it.

Those who are 'against' Trump would say "he's lying".  Ok, maybe he is, but it's unproven.  The only thing we know for certain is he took concrete steps to stop migrants.  That can't be denied.

If you truly believe he's lying, there's nothing anyone can do to prove or disprove a negative.  He could still be lying and you could be right, but we don't know at this point.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Debunking Vigano’s Vote Scare
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2024, 11:33:11 AM »
Quote from: Incredulous on October 31, 2024, 11:07:05 AM
Interesting that a recent Catholic convert is able to discern & debunk Archbishop Vigano’s Trump endorsement… while the majority of trad Bishops remain silent.

The Remnant really has no shepherds.


Incredulous:

Your post says "majority" of Trad Bishops remain silent.  Is there a Trad Bishop who has "debunked" Vigano's position? Although I haven't seen any sedevacantist bishops "debunk" it, it's my understanding that their position is that it is permissible to vote for him, but not an obligation.  Given Vigano's supposed Resistance connections, has a Resistance bishop debunked it?
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Offline Michelle

Re: Debunking Vigano’s Vote Scare
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2024, 11:52:49 AM »
Quote from: Incredulous on October 31, 2024, 11:07:05 AM
Interesting that a recent Catholic convert is able to discern & debunk Archbishop Vigano’s Trump endorsement… while the majority of trad Bishops remain silent.

The Remnant really has no shepherds.


Thanks for posting this.  They articulate the errors very well.
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Offline Incredulous

Re: Debunking Vigano’s Vote Scare
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2024, 03:23:17 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 31, 2024, 11:18:36 AM
What is his main argument?  That's a 1 hour video.

The pro-Trump is based on 4 years of facts.  The against-Trump argument is all based on assumptions. 

Example: 
Fact:  Trump said he wants to stop migrants.  He's said it over and over. 
Fact:  Trump built a large portion of the wall, but Congress stopped him from finishing it.

Those who are 'against' Trump would say "he's lying".  Ok, maybe he is, but it's unproven.  The only thing we know for certain is he took concrete steps to stop migrants.  That can't be denied.

If you truly believe he's lying, there's nothing anyone can do to prove or disprove a negative.  He could still be lying and you could be right, but we don't know at this point.

Right, sorry for not giving a recap of Archbishop Vigano’s errors in promoting Trump.

The gentlemen being interviewed is Mr. Will Tucker, a Kentuckian, who converted to Catholicism recently.  The jist of his argument comes out in the first 10 minutes.

He points out that the Archbishop uses a technique in his letter of layering a series of half-truths about Trump to make his argument.

Now, on the topic of Trump, if you don’t know he’s part of the cabal by now, you haven’t been studying his speeches.

Even in the past four months he’s been practicing what is known in masonry as “The Revelation of the Method”, whereby he tells us something sinister and, if the American public fails to protest, or speak up against, it means we are complicit in it, and it empowers the cabal.  

For example:

1. Trump gives a speech recently, saying he’s not Christian (even though he’s photographed himself purportedly with a Bible).
 
In the same speech, he says, “Christians won’t have to vote anymore after this election.”

That’s a statement with a Kabbalistic “double-meaning”.  It could easily mean Christians will all be dead after he’s in office and implements the pro-zionist plans to eliminate any opposition.

2. Trump gave another recent speech saying he was for parental notification of children’s sex change operations.  Can you tell me when Trump ever mentioned he was for child transgender mutilations?

3. Trump gave recent speeches saying he would “crush” American αnтι-ѕємιтєs.  

We don’t know how “αnтι-ѕємιтє” is defined or what American law he was referring to give him such power, but the тαℓмυdic Noahide laws do.

This is another example of his masonic double-speak, where the implication is of a zionist police state.

4. Of course, we know the Trump’s flip on abortion and LGBTqueer agendas. 

Should I go on… or do you still think it’s unclear that Trump is against, the Natural law, against America and an adversary of Catholicism?

I can dig out the links to Trump’s speeches, but many have been posted on this forum.
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