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Offline CatholicTraditionalist

DEBATE on whether protestants and orthodox are within the Church
« on: September 25, 2019, 09:59:35 AM »
The traditional Catholic, Brother Peter Dimond of the Most Holy Family Monastery, called into last Saturday's "reason and theology" LIVE YouTube show to confront Dr Robert Fastiggi on his claim that protestants and the orthodox are within the body of Christ.  Br Peter enters the discussion at around 1:12:50. 



Please listen in and give your thoughts on the discussion. Thank you.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: DEBATE on whether protestants and orthodox are within the Church
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2019, 10:50:08 AM »
This might be fun.  I recall when Bishop Sanborn debated Fastiggi.  It was enlightening when Bishop Sanborn clearly lost ... due to his position on EENS.  If you say that non-Catholics can be saved, then you have to say that non-Catholics can be in the Church ... and, consequently, there's nothing wrong at all with V2 ecclesiology.
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Offline CatholicInAmerica

Re: DEBATE on whether protestants and orthodox are within the Church
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2019, 11:28:41 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on September 25, 2019, 10:50:08 AM
This might be fun.  I recall when Bishop Sanborn debated Fastiggi.  It was enlightening when Bishop Sanborn clearly lost ... due to his position on EENS.  If you say that non-Catholics can be saved, then you have to say that non-Catholics can be in the Church ... and, consequently, there's nothing wrong at all with V2 ecclesiology.
So is bishop samborn a heretic? What exactly is his position on EENS?
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: DEBATE on whether protestants and orthodox are within the Church
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2019, 11:37:59 AM »
Quote from: CatholicInAmerica on September 25, 2019, 11:28:41 AM
So is bishop samborn a heretic? What exactly is his position on EENS?

I haven't studied his position in detail.  I simply know that he contradicted himself, one the one hand declaring the V2 ecclesiology heretical, but then saying that non-Catholics could be saved (since that puts them in the Church).

It is my understanding that +Sanborn believes that non-Catholics can be saved.  That is in fact objectively heretical.
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Offline LeDeg

Re: DEBATE on whether protestants and orthodox are within the Church
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2019, 12:47:43 PM »
Albrecht and Fasitggi were pathetic.
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