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Author Topic: Debate: Jeff Cassman vs. Br. Peter Dimond - Are JXXIII thru Francis true Popes?  (Read 17423 times)

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This drove me crazy and, unless I missed it, I don't think Peter D ever makes the heresy by divine law point.
He did, he laid out the distinction between the two because Cassman went full Salza on him about needing a canonical trial etc.

He did, he laid out the distinction between the two because Cassman went full Salza on him about needing a canonical trial etc.
Did I miss that!? [if so, I'm probably guilty of reading the comments!]  Or was that after the first hour?


Wow, the elusive Br. Peter has a webcam set up.
On a serious note, he seems awfully thin.  Is this normal for him? Is he okay?

He doesn't recover, you can see it on his face that he realized he was in over his head. I don't know why he thought that regurgitating Salza-Siscoe talking points was a good idea when Fr. Cekada refuted them years ago, let alone MHFM themselves. He didn't seem to get that Br. Peter was trying to show him his contradictory position with the questions about particulars regarding his acceptance of V2 doctrines either.

People in the chat, which was chaotic, were saying they should've had Br. Peter debate someone who accepts V2 completely, like Jimmy Akin, rather than an R&R. As the V2-adherents and sedevacantists have more comparable positions on the Crisis than the R&R adherents.

Either way, I hope it provided some appropriate outreach to those already on the fence about these antipopes. I saw Novus Ordo Watch in the chat as well.
This guy was not R&R.  When he responded to the question about errors in Vatican II, he said there were "ambiguities".

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He did, he laid out the distinction between the two because Cassman went full Salza on him about needing a canonical trial etc.

He also stated in his opening about Paul IV's cuм Ex embodying divine law in that a heretic cannot become pope.