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Author Topic: Debate: Jeff Cassman vs. Br. Peter Dimond - Are JXXIII thru Francis true Popes?  (Read 17360 times)

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He was decimated.  Are we certain that’s the same Jeff Cassman arrested for the Ponzi scheme?  I wonder if SSPX approved his representing their position in this debate.  I don’t see how anyone else could have done any better though.
Yes, that's important and I checked into that before posting it. 




Here is another article with a different photo:
https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2010/12/22/former-financial-fugitive-pleads-guilty.html


And more info from Church Militant:

https://www.churchmilitant.com/main/generic/the-truth-about-jeff-cassman

Really?  I thought their focus was the promulgation and teaching of Vatican II as it is with most sedes.
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About five years ago a friend and I were discussing the brothers, and she mentioned them having some 'good material' and sent a video along for me to review. It was a case for sedevacantism, and their ultimate conclusion was that the conciliar pontiffs do not have the virtue of faith and therefore are not members of the Church (and therefore not popes). They of course discussed the errors of Vatican 2, but only as evidence that those men lack the virtue of faith. 
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If I can find the video, I will post it. 
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That said, I clearly spoke prematurely. Turns out Cassman is a con-man, too. Matt Fradd has always rubbed me the wrong way and I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he pulled out someone who has literally faked theological credentials to debate someone who literally fakes religious credentials. These people deserve each other. 


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About five years ago a friend and I were discussing the brothers, and she mentioned them having some 'good material' and sent a video along for me to review. It was a case for sedevacantism, and their ultimate conclusion was that the conciliar pontiffs do not have the virtue of faith and therefore are not members of the Church (and therefore not popes). They of course discussed the errors of Vatican 2, but only as evidence that those men lack the virtue of faith.
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If I can find the video, I will post it.
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That said, I clearly spoke prematurely. Turns out Cassman is a con-man, too. Matt Fradd has always rubbed me the wrong way and I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he pulled out someone who has literally faked theological credentials to debate someone who literally fakes religious credentials. These people deserve each other.
Okay, well, if you wanted to be objective you would actually seek out what their true position is on the Pope, not paraphrase some hearsay about what your friend sent you years ago. https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/anti-pope-francis-vatican-ii-antipopes/

Second, prove that the Dimonds are "con-men" (and no, don't point to the Eric Hoyle case). I don't necessarily agree with all their positions, but I would argue that they are genuine in their zeal, if not mistaken on some things and their approach on evangelization; albeit, this debate was a proof that Br. Peter isn't necessarily the "uncharitable" "bitter" person he's made out to be.

This debate was a proof that Br. Peter isn't necessarily the "uncharitable" "bitter" person he's made out to be.
I was very pleased with his performance.  I have more respect for him now given his ability to remain calm and charitable. Not to mention his ability to throw out support for the sedevacantist position on a dime.

Okay, well, if you wanted to be objective you would actually seek out what their true position is on the Pope, not paraphrase some hearsay about what your friend sent you years ago. https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/anti-pope-francis-vatican-ii-antipopes/

Second, prove that the Dimonds are "con-men" (and no, don't point to the Eric Hoyle case). I don't necessarily agree with all their positions, but I would argue that they are genuine in their zeal, if not mistaken on some things and their approach on evangelization; albeit, this debate was a proof that Br. Peter isn't necessarily the "uncharitable" "bitter" person he's made out to be.
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To be clear, I watched the video and actually rewinded it several times to make sure I was understanding their case. My friend did not tell me anything about it, except that she found it a compelling case for SVism. 
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Why is the Eric Hoyle case not sufficient evidence?